• silence7@slrpnk.netOP
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    A lot of car makers use a cellular connection collect this data. You need to disable that too, as well as any apps used to access car features.

    Your cell phone provider could likely deliver this same data as well.

    The right answer is to make it illegal to collect, except for a small amount stored on-vehicle for crash analysis.

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      I agree it should be codified, but have no hope that our fascist leaning lawmakers won’t gladly accept $$ from insurance companies and automakers to do what they want to do anyways.

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        We’re headed rapidly toward a social credit system, but run by our corporate overlords instead of government. To quote The Stupendium:

        You seem so surprised, what did you expect?

        We’re thinking outside of that box that you checked

        The terms were presented in full to inspect

        You scrolled to the end just to get to “Accept”

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          The other side of that coin is, if we all read the bullshit extended legalise in every licence/privacy agreement for everything we’ve ever used, we’d never do anything else but read them.

          Besides which, it’s not like there’s a choice aside from accepting the agreement or not using the thing. Alternatives? All have similar agreements attached.

          Basically, this is just a symptom of how much “better” modern life is. But hey, at least we don’t need to worry about lions eating us quite so much.

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            What’s the point of reading them? I know there’s a lot I disagree with but I also know i can’t see before buying, I can’t do anything about it, nor are there realistically other choices. All modern cars do it. For any place with any consumer protection, they should be unenforceable, but I’m in the US so have to settle for there’s nothing I can do about it

            These are just legal cover, so they can say “see, he agreed,according to our definition”. It doesn’t change what they are doing or whether they would have already

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            But hey, at least we don’t need to worry about lions eating us quite so much.

            I’m pretty confident that humans have killed and eaten more lions than lions have humans.

            Big cats may be an apex predator, but:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apex_predator

            An apex predator, also known as a top predator, is a predator[a] at the top of a food chain, without natural predators of its own.

            That “natural” is a big caveat, as we are that “natural” exception. We eat everything.

            In general, large creatures that aren’t very good at hiding have not done very well when humans show up.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Pleistocene_extinctions

            The Late Pleistocene to the beginning of the Holocene saw numerous extinctions of predominantly megafaunal (typically defined as having body masses over 44 kilograms (97 lb)[1]) animal species (the Pleistocene megafauna), which resulted in a collapse in faunal density and diversity across the globe.[2] The extinctions during the Late Pleistocene are differentiated from previous extinctions by the widespread absence of ecological succession to replace these extinct megafaunal species,[3] and the regime shift of previously established faunal relationships and habitats as a consequence. The timing and severity of the extinctions varied by region and are thought to have been driven by varying combinations of human and climatic factors.[3] Human impact on megafauna populations is thought to have been driven by hunting (“overkill”),[4][5] as well as possibly environmental alteration.

            We’re a lot better at countering disease, though. Malaria has killed more humans than anything else has, and we could really combat that only quite recently.

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            Perhaps. There is a lot you can do to present the right appearance w/ respect to financial transactions. There’s not so much you can do when companies are exchanging data about your routine activities behind you back. Or they assume it is about you, who is going to hold them to account? Nobody.

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      Yep, all cars connected so you can pay $20/month for remote start and things like this. The only way to disable cellular connection in the car is to unplug the cell antenna from the module. You have to dig the information online to find where is the module and have to disassemble the dash to do so maybe? But it’s the only way. Even if you don’t pay, the connection will still work and manufacturer receives all info.

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      This is one of the reasons I never want a car with it’s own internet connection. I’ll stick to plugging in my phone, where I’m very stingy with which apps even get location data, much less the “physical activity history” permission which allows this kind of continuous tracking (and which is usually needed because it uses Google’s algorithms / possibly neural nets to guess whether you’re driving or walking based on accelerometer / gyro / gps / magnetometer sensor fusion).