Ebay Could Owe $1.9 Billion in Fines for Allowing Sale of 343,000 Emissions Defeat Devices::The Department of Justice alleges that eBay illegally sold 343,011 emissions defeat devices, and could face billions in penalties.

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      I’m sure some of them are idiots. I’m also sure there are some people who needed a car to work, catalytic converter went out and they needed to find the cheapest possible way to pass emissions and keep getting to work.

      I know that because I’m about to drop a thousand or 2 on my catalytic converter, which I’ll have to install myself to save money, to pass emissions. Luckily, I can budget well and every car repair known to man is on YouTube

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        Someone needs to start a catalytic converter rental service where in they install a caddy so you can get your emissions done and then they install the bypass when they take the unit back so that you can cheat the system and look legit. /s

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      Lots of deisel guys will delete the system due to cost and complexity.

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        My father did this, but he only did this because it was either delete the EGR or scrap the truck, a truck which, almost 9 years later, he has still not paid off. He had issues specifically with the emissions device and the work involved would have turned it into a Ship of Theseus

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      Modern diesels are garbage due to their emissions technology. Oftentimes it costs an arm and a leg to fix that stuff, so lots of situations where you either delete those things or write off the vehicle.

      The used market of the older diesels proves this, early 2000s trucks are crazy expensive because they are the last models without emissions stuff

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    Saw one of these for the first time in our red neck of the woods. First thought when I saw all that black smoke coming out of that BBQ smoke stack was “how did that pass emissions?” Now I know why. Yuck

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      I first thought that you worked at the DMV because of your instance name, lol.

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    Ebay’s response: “This is unprecedented!”; not “This is a lie!”, or “We’re not guilty!”.

    If your best response is that the EPA hasn’t prosecuted you this large before, then you must be super guilty.

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      For me, “this is unprecedented!” sounds more like “how dare they accusing us of any wrongdoing!”

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      I hope the case results in the list of people who bought these things being forwarded to their states’ authorities.

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        Lol bootlicker. I don’t agree with their purchases by anymeans but fuck snitching to the government , an arguably more corrupt system than private sector ecommerce

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      eBay has always sold shady stuff. They only stop when they get lots of pressure about a certain thing they’re allowing. I used to buy $5 Windows 10 keys on there but they haven’t sold them recently.

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    Keyword being could. They won’t, though. They’ll get a million or two to pay and will move on with their day.

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    the DOJ also alleges that eBay sold 23,000 unregistered or restricted-use pesticides, which violated a 2020 U.S. EPA stop-sale order, as well as distributing 5,614 paint and coating removal products that contain methylene chloride. The chemical is linked with lethal brain and liver cancer, as well as non-Hodgkin lymphoma.

    Yeah, fuck em up and fine them to hell.

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    I don’t think we care in Australia. The design rules are pretty much behind the pack, so much so that we run the risk of being the dumping ground for 3rd world vehicles.

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      Its a $10,000 fine if you get caught de-catting a car.

      Also we have the whole defect notice system, which I’m pretty sure the US doesnt have. We actually hold the end user accountable.

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        I can already picture the episode of Highway Patrol now where Johno gets caught for the fifth time in the same car and cops a couple hundred bucks fine and the loss of a demerit point.

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        Just a shame we don’t have great emission standards to begin with. Apparently we use the cheap and dirty fuel of the world. Gotta sell it somewhere!

        Shame its connected to thousands of deaths each year

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    How is this ebay’s fault? Sounds like people need to start reporting listings

    I hate ebay though so I kind of want them to lose

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        Ebay abuses sellers then wonders why they leave to Amazon. Buyers don’t always fare great either but they are generally treated better than sellers. Factor in the random ban threads and general outsourced customer service stupidity with people who will never solve your issues, it was worth leaving.