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First time hearing of this note taking app. How does it compare to obsidian? Is it comparable? I bought a license for obsidian a couple of days ago (using it for work stuff) and now I’m wondering if it’s smarter to use this as I already pay for Proton unlimited and I kinda expect this to (somehow) be included the same way they did with SimpleLogin.
I found Standard Notes rather rudimentary compared to Joplin, Obsidian, Logseq and Trilium. I settled on Joplin but the others are fine. Trilium is kinda neat since you can put automations in your notes that act on other notes.
I like Proton and it’s good for us as users that Proton are adding to their service offerings.
But hiding what you’re doing behind corporate cute-speak like this is cringe. You’re not “joining forces”, you acquired them.
I think in the context of open source software, saying “joining forces” is acceptable
It’s in the context of one private company purchasing another private company. There is no “we, Proton and Standard Notes” it’s now “Us, Proton”.
That only matters if you’re a standard notes user and don’t like Proton or you trust Standard notes and no one else, the reason I said it’s acceptable they put it like that, is because they both develop open source software
But Yeah, from a business perspective, it’s not Standard Notes LTD and Proton AG, it’s just Proton AG now
That only matters if you’re a standard notes user and don’t like Proton
This is me. I use both but I would much rather have standard notes be separate from proton as I use it 10x more.
I hope they don’t merge the logins or apps.
I wish they had gone with something a little more robust than standard notes.
I’ve used it for years. What’s not robust?
It and I might just be at odds about some fundamental aspects of note taking. One of the major problems I have is shared with Protonmail: Folders as a second class feature.
I may be old and tired, but structure is information. Folders are a premium feature, which on its face is laughable - I’m not opposed to paying for software, I pay for the note taking software I use now, but c’mon. For me tags are not a suitable substitution, they are good metadata for sure; particularly for searching but it’s a very flat organization system. It could be so much richer.
Missing free-form note metadata. We’ve got created date and modified date which is good, and an archived flag which is OK. An example I have from my notes is: I take notes during a meeting, sometimes on paper when I’m not in a situation where I have a computer in front of me. When I digitize these notes I assign an attribute to them that is the date the meeting took place, since digitization may not happen until the next day or longer depending on how long it sits on my desk.
Missing templates. I have spent some time putting together rough outline structures for different kinds of notes; release notes, change logs, general meetings, and daily task notes.
Missing note links. I am a big fan of not repeating information in a bunch of places. Doubly so in notes. My first impressions of a thing may be wrong, incomplete, missing context… and if I can create a note about a thing, and then link back to the thing when I refer to it in other notes it adds a great deal of context and allows for extremely simple revisions.
None of this stuff is mandatory for note taking for sure, but so much value can be derived not just from the content of your notes but the metadata surrounding your notes. When you open the door to this, and you add something like “smart lists” which are more or less just saved search critera… it helps.
Interesting thoughts and methods, thanks for taking the time. I had interpreted “not robust” as meaning you thought it unreliable. I agree about folders, which is why I opted to pay the subscription
I use proton and the one thing that I’ve wanted is a replacement for google docs, while this may only be a notes app I look forward to it being added to proton and may use it outside of just syncing to my proton drive.
I recognize that the adoption of basically outsourced apps seems less desirable than in house proton apps. Will have to see if proton continues to move toward outsourcing further app solutions.
Standard Notes is not a replacement word processor, unless you’re exclusively using Google Docs for notes.
It’s also already freemium, and the free tier includes E2EE syncing.
