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Does it matter even if they do? The company has lost consumer trust and respect going into the future.
Good.
Cool story bro
lol. No they aren’t.
Seriously, windows is about to release forced advertisements in the Start Menu. Windows 12 is going to be a shit show. People aren’t going to flock to Linux, they’re going to Apple. Think they have a lot of money now? Wait until they get more desktop market. They can afford to build another garden.
Say what you want about Apple, it’s probably true. But don’t pretend they don’t have gardens inside gardens.
The only way Apple will fall is if there is actual competition, and nothing is on the horizon.
In addition to the other great points in this thread, Apple has a cost barrier that other operating systems don’t.
In an economic climate where everything is getting more expensive, a consumer isn’t going to fork out $800+ on a MacBook or an iPhone without first actively wanting to be part of the ecosystem, especially if the hardware they have gets the job done.
The reason Apple isn’t growing as fast as it’s competitors right now is exactly that. Apple is expensive to get into. No amount of enshitification on other OS’s is going to change that.
$599 is the entry point and the OS upgrade is free. Every app you might need is free. Like Pages, Numbers, Keynote. Etc.
So, it’s a pretty good package. You can also run all the apps Linux would have.
And while you might say they aren’t as popular, they sure have the money to ensure their products are up to date and secure.
Also, my 2013 MacBook Air (i7, 16gb, 512gb)—Running Neon now—is still very usable. Find me a PC laptop that holds up like that for less money.
They had cheaper periods and series in the past. eMac and such.
Being more expensive is their competitive advantage. For people who consider this a sign of social status.
But they are a company with the goal of making money, so if changing that part of their image seems more profitable, they’ll do it.
For people who consider this a sign of social status
Ok well,
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Anyone who considers apple products a status symbol already has bought in and won’t be swayed one way or the other by windows becoming worse.
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Anyone who actually understands technology knows that regardless of how many different apps or environments apple OS’s provide, you are always operating in a closed system with the tools they allow. Whereas an operating system like android, or Linux, or (at least for now) windows, your options for the capability of a tool are limited only by what exists or what you have the capability to write.
In short, apple isn’t an OS that technologically literate people flock to as an exclusive option.
Anyone who actually understands technology knows that regardless of how many different apps or environments apple OS’s provide, you are always operating in a closed system with the tools they allow. Whereas an operating system like android, or Linux, or (at least for now) windows, your options for the capability of a tool are limited only by what exists or what you have the capability to write.
With desktop MacOS it’s the same as with Windows for now.
In short, apple isn’t an OS that technologically literate people flock to as an exclusive option.
No, but many do.
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My neighbour randomly asked me a few months ago if I was familiar with Linux and if I could could get him some boot USB or something. I got him one with several options. He didn’t have any Linux experience before, and isn’t exactly a nerd.
It’s much easier nowadays for someone to get familiar and use Linux than it was before, and it’s much cheaper than reworking your whole tech ecosystem to accomodate Apple’s monopoly.
In some cases this is true.
My elderly neighbor needed a computer to do accounting, I set her up with Mint on a T430 w/ LibreOffice and told her I’d giver her free support till the laptop died.
5 years on and the only time I’ve had to fulfill my side of the bargain was when her printer was out of paper and she couldn’t find her eye glasses to read the error message.
my god what is wrong with Americans that you’re such a bunch of fucking fanboys. If it’s not apple, it’s religion, or your political party… psychotic obsession after psychotic obsession, total disconnect from reality…
Get fucking help
This is the pot calling the kettle black.
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Or everyone is starting to figure out that the garden looks just as good outside the fence as it does inside the fence. Technology has been converging for many years now to the point where most devices especially smart phones have reached a bottleneck and no one can make things go any faster and there is really no big need for even more massive storage space for the average person. So phones have hit a ceiling and the place that Apple once had where they were one of the few manufacturers that made good phones is now overshadowed by lots of other companies that are comparable or near comparable. Does the average person really care if they have a high definition 20MP camera or a 22 MP camera. All they care about is being able to scroll through Tik Tok, FB or Instagram and no one really seems to care what device they use to do that any more.
Next tech is probably going to be dedicated GPUs or similar to run personalized AI
It’s already here. I run AI models via my GPU with training data from various sources for both searching/GPT-like chat and images. You can basically point-and-click and do this with GPT4All which integrates a chat client and let’s you just select some popular AI models without knowing how to really do anything or use the CLI. It basically gives you a ChatGPT experience offline using your GPU if it has enough VRAM or CPU if it doesn’t for whatever particular model you’re using. It doesn’t do images I don’t think but there are other projects out there that simplify doing it using your own stuff.
I was meaning for mobile tech, running your own personal AI on your phone.
Apple still has a pretty solid ecosystem that makes it hard to break out of. For example:
- airdrop and sharing in general - experience sucks pretty much anywhere else
- watch, phone, and laptop all working together - iMessage, notifications, etc
- iCloud - the experience is essentially seamless if you use all Apple products
I don’t think people will be leaving Apple anytime soon, and those who don’t use it probably don’t know what they’re missing.
I’m personally on Linux and it works well for me, but I recognize that people tend to stay where they’re at, and I think Apple is probably more attractive to people who decide to leave Windows than Linux is (unless they need games, and Linux still seems to have better compatibility).
From a technical point of view I agree … I have a few friends who work in music and visual arts and they swear by Apple products and software
But to average users and people who just want to go online with social media, snap a picture, share it, forget it and do it over and over and over again … they really don’t care if it’s an apple product or not. The family and friends I know that are not technically minded only understand one key technological specification when it comes to devices … PRICE and COST.
If they can’t afford a $1,000 apple phone … they’ll buy a $500 android phone … or just stick to their five year apple phone and won’t upgrade until they can buy a used $500 apple phone.
That’s not what I see. In my area, people buy Apple because it’s trendy. If they can’t afford the $1000 Apple phone, they’ll lease it and make payments. If they’re too young, they’ll convince their parents that they need it.
The ones with Android phones generally have a reason for it beyond cost. Once that reason is gone (e.g. Apple supports whatever the use case is), they may be swayed to get an iPhone. But once someone has an Apple device, they generally stick to it.
The Apple experience isn’t necessarily better, but it is sticky.
People buy anything because of trends. Not just Apple products.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
So it’s been doing the logical thing for years, which is finding other ways to make money, and it’s been largely successful, particularly as it added the App Store and services like Apple Music.
And smaller developers struggled to find a business model that worked between Apple’s commission fees and strict guidelines over how and when it could charge customers for their product.
Microsoft recognized that Java could make porting software from Windows to other systems easier, so it sabotaged Sun’s efforts and instructed its allies not to aid the company.
Apple responded to the pressure by promising to support RCS on the iPhone — a standard that updates the relatively ancient SMS/MMS protocol and includes more iMessage-like features.
The other shoe fell last month when the US Department of Justice filed an antitrust lawsuit against Apple for operating an illegal monopoly in the smartphone market.
But that’s unlikely to be the end of it — app developers aren’t happy with the company’s “malicious compliance” to new rules under the DMA, and European regulators are investigating Apple’s response.
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They will just figure ways to make new walls, or be as malicious in compliance as possible. Reminder: walled gardens are always anti-consumer, no exceptions.
it’s still a fetish for a lot of you alarming maniacs.
I’m glad we are finally treating phones like the mini computers they are, they should be free as in freedom just like’em.
