• Hagdos@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    The ID.4 doesn’t just have capacitive buttons, it has swipe controls on the steering wheel.

    And of the most frustrating cars I have ever driven.

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      2 months ago

      While im not a fan of the capacitive buttons on the steering wheel, I’ve gotten used to them and havent had any issues. That said, if there’s some sort of recall that swaps it out for a wheel with regular buttons, im down for that. I saw some of the newer VWs had physical buttons again, i wonder if it is just as easy to sawp like my MKV Rabbit from the bare bones to a R32 wheel?

      Now the capacitive buttons below the screen could f right off lol. I barely use them. I tend to rest my hand on the top of the screen and use my thumb to navigate where i need to go. Thanks above for the travel assist mode.

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    2 months ago

    Capacitive buttons on anything are annoying, they’re unreliable as fuck. They might trigger with the slightest accidental touch, but then they’ll act like your finger doesn’t exist for a dozen pushes.

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      2 months ago

      and why do they have to be everywhere? we have an induction stove and it has capacitive buttons for some idiotic reason. so many problems! when you boil water, little drops are always landing on the buttons. and to reduce power from max to min, you need to hold the - button for like a full minute. wiping the stove with a wet towel makes it go BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP and it won’t shut up! and finally, when my cats walk on the buttons, they always manage to turn it on. i miss knobs.

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        2 months ago

        Yes, so much yes. I’ve got that on mine too, and it’s a pain. it has very small, close “buttons” too, setting the temperature is an exercise in accuracy, when it reacts at all.

        And yes, the tiniest drop of water fucks everything up completely.

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    2 months ago

    I own an ID3 and it’s got the same capacitive bullshit steering wheel. So far I’ve only managed to accidentally fuck with the audio by brushing the right side of the sheel during a turn, but it’s really scary that those cruise control buttons are right there with the potential to be fucked with at random.

    Luckily I’m learned to be pretty well aware of the adaptive cruise control suddenly deciding there’s a different speed limit on the road than what’s actually there, so maybe I can manage to catch any accidental fuckings with the buttons too.

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    2 months ago

    It is absolutely insane to treat capacitive buttons as a good thing in cars at this time.

    The only capacitive input I will accept in my next car is the infotainment, CarPlay is brilliant.

    Controls for lights, speed, wipers, climate, volume, play/pause, and anything else that you need to use when driving should have a physical control.

    I hate having capacitive buttons for temperature in my car, not to mention that to activate the seat heater, I have to go into a menu in the infotainment.

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    2 months ago

    Completely ridiculous, used to own a mk6 Jetta and the steering wheel was perfect as it was, everything was right there and it was all regular buttons

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      2 months ago

      This bears repeating more: VW already knew how to make good driver controls. Their buttons and switches were carefully and thoughtfully designed for many years. The decision to throw in touch-screen buttons is either chasing a fad or outright dangerous cost-cutting. Companies like VW deserve the flak because they knew better, and did it anyway.

    • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Mk7 GTI owner here, can confirm it’s got great steering wheel controls. I like that the audio is on the left side since my right hand is busy shifting.

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    2 months ago

    Lits if cars got crossed frlm my list when shopping for a used one this year, no buttons meant no purchase. got a Kia stinger, fast car, looks good, good price, all physical buttons

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    2 months ago

    Shouldn’t automotive catch a hint from the fact that the only mainstream capacitive control devices are phones and tablets - something that you’re constantly looking at while operating?

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      2 months ago

      They know.

      Capacitive touch sensors are WAY cheaper than physical buttons, and aren’t nearly as prone to mechanical flaws. Plus they can market them as “newer”!

      Car companies only care about your safety as much as it affects their bottom line. It’s unfortunately commonplace for there to be known fatal flaws which occur infrequently enough that it’s cheaper to just pay out the injured/killed victims than to issue a recall. Driving is inherently dangerous - any car companies that tried to fix everything would go bankrupt, or at least be squeezed out by those that don’t.

      Now, if only there were a way to build the places we live so that we didn’t need to take on the risk of driving so frequently…

  • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    Im of the opinion controls for cars should be designed more like controls for airplanes. Every gage and button in that cockpit is where it is and points where it points to be able to convey a lot of information with a quick glance and allow you to interact as quickly and easily as you can read them. Marketing gimicks that remove layers of tactile response to esential controls don’t belong in heavy machinery.

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      2 months ago

      Todays cars cockpit layouts are straight out dangerous for the roads tbh. Forcing you to point your eyes to some shitty display somewhere to turn down your AC, then try to tap tiny buttons and hope you won’t tap on something else, instead of looking at a road in front of you? How is that even allowed ffs?!

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      Touch controls are becoming increasingly common in airplanes and then back up by mouse cursors. Flight critical controls still need to be backed by physical hardware but stuff like route planning etc is now almost entirely touch based. For light sports aircraft’s even flight critical stuff can be approved as touch controls.

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    2 months ago

    I got a loaner while my car was being fixed a while ago. The volume control on the wheel was touch sensitive. I would swipe it and blow my ears out while turning.

    Worst. Idea. Ever.