• Pasta Dental@sh.itjust.works
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        3 months ago

        I’m more concerned about Firefox dying because of a lack of funding and in turn giving Google even more of a monopoly over web standards

    • barfplanet@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      I’ve read that the main reason Google funds Mozilla is to prevent a monopoly situation. I bet they’ll stay committed.

      Mozilla really does need to diversify their funding though.

      • rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        I mean, it’s very convenient, when your only competition depends on your funding.

        Say, if you cut a bit of that funding, it won’t immediately cease to exist. And you can double it in exchange for the right people taking the helm. There’ll be kickbacks almost impossible to prove.

        This should be in the law. If your competition is funded by you, it’s not that.

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      3 months ago

      Yeah, Google, Meta, Amazon, and probably others really need to get broken up and get proper antitrust treatment. I say this even as someone who holds stock (like a total of 5 shares, so not much) in a couple of those. I used to dream of working at Google as well, but that dream died quite some time ago based on their actions and culture.

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        3 months ago

        I’ve recently got a description of their general climate from someone who apparently works in Google.

        These companies should be broken into like 24 pieces each.

        And their management of all time investigated thoroughly for anti-competitive activities.

        There should a Nuremberg tribunal for corps. And open one.

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      3 months ago

      That’s never going to happen. I’m not sure on what stipulates a monopoly in this scenario, but the fact that there’s bing, duck duck go, kagi, and a handful of others means it’s not really a monopoly which tells me there is some specific ruling here that they’ve determined is monopolistic behavior.

      Edit: yeah after reading the article, wtf Google…

      • AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml
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        3 months ago

        Because of network effects the understanding of a monopoly has to grow with changing technology.

        The fundamental problem is that it wouldn’t even be desireable to split up many of the new social media and internet technologies because that would reduce the quality for everyone, increase costs to support as a business and increase environmental damage from duplicating server storage and power consumption.

        What we need is to turn them into public utilities that have significant democratic input by their own workforce (the experts and enthusiasts) and the users (the billions of people who actually create the value for the thing).

        • aes@programming.dev
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          3 months ago

          This is a somewhat surprising position to see in the fediverse…

          (I mean, I get what you’re saying, and I guess someone should bring that to the party, but there is s different way)

          • AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml
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            3 months ago

            Hmm well arguably I ought to rethink my opinion now that lemmy is working well enough.

            Look at how many niche communities tried to move from reddit to lemmy and failed. Basically all of them. Even just a little pushback of reddit did a lot (not letting communities be abandoned or closed). Then lemmy is becoming increasingly fragmented (e.g. US imperialists and socialist instances). Then you have people deleting years worth of contribution and valuable content on reddit, answers to questions etc. Or what happens when ~20% of the current lemmy instances fold because of server cost or lost interest? And ultimately how much of a dent on a civilization level is the fediverse going to make?

            All that are example of how network effects create a “toll” if you try to leave them.

            The EU recently mandated that messenger apps need to create a compatibility layer and afaik even that looks like it’s going to fail to work as thought.

            • aes@programming.dev
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              3 months ago

              Yesss… You’re not wrong, but I really do believe the solution we want is to be found somewhere in that direction. Considering the Google graveyard, the faang crowd isn’t all that reliable either.