Hi guys for those of you that use pi-hole (or similar solutions like adguard home, etc) and wireguard how far away can you be from your wireguard/pi-hole server before latency becomes a major issue?
Also on a side note how many milliseconds of latency would you guys consider to be to slow?
Edit I meant dns latency sorry for not mentioning
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As with everything, it depends.
A video stream and general web browsing can easily take a 300ms delay no issue, but voice and gaming will have issues.
Voice is fine for upto 150ms according to the IEEE.
Does the 300ms include dns latency?
Not for the duration of the stream, only for initial page load
DNS is only used initially on first load, after that the connection is made via IP and DNS isn’t used.
Gotta downvote for misinformation here.
A requested video stream and web browsing is not bidirectional, and the 300ms you use as an example is not the roundtrip of traffic in that case, but also the response time of the application server.
The 150ms jitter for real-time voice/video and gaming netcode is streaming bidirectional , and that number is what most users say is not noticeable in real-time communication. You can obviously have more and still have a stable stream up to what the codec will tolerate.
Depends on your use case there are multiple factors that guide internet use cases
- Latency - how fast
- Bandwidth - how wide/much
- Loss - how much data is lost, or how much data needs to be sent again
Gaming: latency, loss
YouTube/movies: bandwidth
Video chat/voice chat: latency, bandwidth
Remote desktop/game streaming: latency, bandwidth, loss
Web browsing: bandwidth, latency
DNS latency can be a multiplier for browsing the web, a website can include artifacts from other websites, which then can include other websites, which then can include other websites. Each one of those would require another DNS lookup, and round trip time to the website itself etc. however, DNS was architected for local caching, so only the first lookup should be slow, and then afterwards you should keep that DNS information for future lookups so it’s not going to feel too bad once you’ve warmed up the cache
Rule of thumb: under 100ms feels fine, over starts to feel a little sluggish. Over 300ms and you change your behaviors, and you really feel it.
Thanks for the clarification
I only really have issues when I’m out of the country, especially when I’m back in South Africa
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters DNS Domain Name Service/System HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web IP Internet Protocol PiHole Network-wide ad-blocker (DNS sinkhole) VPN Virtual Private Network
5 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 6 acronyms.
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