Just dual boot…
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I dream of a world where I don’t have to dual boot.
Due to planned virtualisation in Windows this will probably soon be the case for people who Dual boot due to anticheat.
Due to planned virtualisation in Windows
I must have missed something. What are you referencing with this comment?
They want to prevent spooky programs running in the kernel (like crowdstrike) which may break the whole system. Source: https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/26/24206719/microsoft-windows-changes-crowdstrike-kernel-driver
Perhaps I’m being dense but how do you see this helping Linux Gaming?
Even assuming that VBS-E allows Game Devs to shift their current kernel based anti-cheat over to it there’s no guarantee that Linux will get a compatible VBS-E module nor that Game Devs would allow its use.
I guess I see it as: If a Game Dev does this (use VBS-E) AND Linux gets a compatible module AND Game Devs allow its use THEN newer games may not have the same problem with anti-cheat as older ones.
The way I understand it is that every anticheat needs to be overhauled as they can no longer tap into the kernel/get kernel access. So the anticheat has to run in userspace. This can also be done under GNU/Linux which is why anticheat should work on both platforms.
The way I understand it is that every anticheat needs to be overhauled as they can no longer tap into the kernel/get kernel access.
Yes, if we assume that various institutions (cough cough looking at you EU) allow MS to remove kernel access.
So the anticheat has to eun in userspace.
VSB-E isn’t really “user space” but your point about the kernel is valid.
hich is why anticheat should
The word “should” is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence. Even if it COULD that doesn’t mean devs will allow it nor does it mean that existing games will get updated on EITHER platform. Removing a kernel level anti-cheat could easily be the death of some older games on Windows as the owner simply doesn’t want to put the money into making it work.
I’m honestly not too sure how possible it is to make VSB-E work on *nix either, since it appears to use Microsoft Hyper-V technologies at its core and those wouldn’t be available in *nix. That means that we’d be back to Game Devs having to specifically write anti-cheat for *nix…which is something they can already do if they want.
VSB-E is interesting but I’m not convinced its going to do anything for Linux Gaming at all. Hopefully I am wrong. :)
please.
It seems quite likely actually. The only problem might be them noticing the benefit for GNU/Linux.
Out of curiosity what do you dual boot for? I used to dual boot for gaming but I’ve lately found that proton works very well with my games and there is no need to run Windows for anything
Yeah proton works really well for me for the vast majority of my games but there are a few that don’t. I dual boot solely to play those.
- Star Citizen - much worse performance for me using Linux.
- Cyberpunk - Used to work fine but started crashing on Linux for me
- Counter Strike 2 - Audio cuts out after about 15 - 20 minutes on Linux.
- Supreme Commander - Frequent crashes on Linux.
I think people can run most of those fine but I haven’t had luck and don’t spend much time tinkering.
There are plenty of games that runs on linux just fine
https://libregaming.org/play-libre-games/
The games you mentioned don’t seem to have anything so special that they are worth trading for your privacy and freedom over.
How dramatic.
EDIT: In the dramatic spirit though.
It’s too late for me, friend. The trap was baited with the frivolous and delightful outputs of an unethical capitalist machine and I was ensnared. I am now doomed to forever carry out a small percentage of my computing tasks in the glass cage of OS lock in and corporate surveillance. It’s not too late for others, though, you can still save yourself. Leave me to my fate, my only solace is that my experience may be a lesson to others.
Na it’s not to late, just try different games and experience new OS. After a while your thirst for playing specific games simply goes away and you will feel as much comfortable playing games on linux.
First person to come up with a time machine, can you make your first trip back to the early 80s and buy 86-DOS and open source it before Bill gets his grubby hands on it?
…and make it unix based, for good lord, I hate CMD/ps commands
Probably wouldn’t work as GPL license was published much later in 1989.
Imagine traveling back in time and casting 21st century witchcraft like the AGPL.
their ecosystem of apps is buggy as fuck.
teams and outlook always gives me headaches.
Ugh, outlook has been dropping support for email standards for a while now, it’s getting close to a proprietary standard now.
Just built my first fully dedicated Linux machine. Still keeping my old Windows desktop around purely because I play League of Legends and they use a kernel level anticheat, so it won’t run on VM.
Fun fact, ever since Riot made it mandatory to install their rootkit if you want to play their games, every time I try to eject a flash drive, it says it can’t eject because it’s in use - even if I just plugged it in. And that’s super comforting.
It’s not like Riot Games is fully owned by Tencent or anything…
But if you still want to play the game, having a computer that you only use for league, with nothing else installed, is the best way to go about it
What the fuck is all this anti-Windows 11 talk? I have never had a problem with it. Is it because of functionality or something else? Because, functionality wise, it’s been fine for me. 🤷🏼♂️
Oh shit I didn’t realize this was in Linux. Welp o7 I go down with my ship lmao
Brave of you to walk into the
lion’slinux den with thatI was genuinely like, “oh no no no no” when I noticed. But oh well, it’s kinda funny to me.
Yeah I got a laugh from the edit as well, this is a meme community after all.
I’m just guessing, I’m still using Windows (though I would have made the swap literally decades ago if the games I like in particular ran on Linux just as fine): it’s not about functionality; Windows was designed to be a great tool to do your business.
It’s everything else that you pay in return, the price being the least of the problems. Forced ads, forced software, insane amount of “telemetry” (half of which is just data collection for their own gains), to name a few. Year by year it’s getting harder, more complicated and more tedious (and less and less doable) to remove all the forced ads, reverse all the forced program defaults and automatic bloat. If you have to look it up on the Internet how you need to edit the registry to be able to stop certain processes/services that annoy you, then it means they don’t want you to stop the annoyance. A few patches later you can’t even do it. Dishonest stuff like that.
If you’re fine with everything that Win11 means, including stuff that drives others up the wall, then Win11 is for you and there’s nothing wrong with that.
As much as others here love to shit on certain games (like League of Legends or Valorant), I still find them fun to play and I wouldn’t want to say goodbye to them just because otherwise I’d prefer Linux. There’s a reason they aren’t supported on various OS’s at the same time (developing anti cheat on multiple systems is just super labour intensive, and opens up way too many loopholes/exploits/bugs for cheat developers), and it pretty much applies to ANY multiplayer game. If I only played single player games I would switch in an instant.
