It’s not safe
Humans are not safe. 40k of them get killed in vehicle accidents every year in the US alone. Self driving doesn’t need to be flawless. It only needs to be safer. If perfection is the only thing we’ll settle for then that’ll cost us hundreds of thousands, if not millions of more lives untill we get there.
If we replaced every vehicle on US roads with self driving cars that were twice as safe of an driver as average human is, there would still be 50 deaths every single day. That’s 50 daily news articles on Lemmy about how “not safe” self driving cars are despite them saving additional 20k lives every year.
There is no independently verified data that shows Tesla self driving is actually better than humans.
I never claimed it is.
Yes you did: https://lemmy.ml/post/19661763/13303063
You should stop lying.
That was posted after replying to you and I’m making an entirely different claim there. Half as good as a human driver =/= twice as good as human. It’s also just my opinion, not a factual statement, only what I believe to be true.
Not a single lie was told.
Let us know when it even gets to half as good as a human.
About a year ago probably. Humans suck at driving so that’s a low bar to reach.
Citation desired.
It’s not a fact, but my opinion which I cannot prove any more than you can disprove.
I don’t even want to turn on the speed limiter because I’m getting random fantom breaking, it’s really infuriating.
Honestly there’s so much shit about Tesla’s software on the Internet. I own a model y with “FSD” and I can confidently say that the current version (12.5.3) is a 90% solution. Is it perfect? No. Can it do everything? No. Can it drive me to work and back, to the grocery store, and whatever else I need without me intervening? Yes it can, and has no issues 90% of the time. Obviously for it to be considered level 5 or whatever it needs to work 99.999% of the time, but it’s good enough right now for me to not only use it regularly, but to also enjoy using it.
It’s an awesome piece of software and it still blows my mind to watch my car drive me around. We are living in the future.
To every even slightly educated person on the matter it’s immediately obvious that the majority of people commenting on these threads don’t have up-to-date information about how far FSD has come and their opinions are based on how bad it used to be and / or how bad they wish it was.
Everyone is free to go to YouTube and watch videos of people intentionally pushing the limits of this system. Like you said; it’s not flawless, but damn it’s good.
I recently rode in a Tesla on FSD for over 26 hours of freeway travel. It was flawless the entire time.
On city streets? 90% was about right. It once took too sharp of a turn at a double right turn and spooked the driver next to us (although it didn’t cross into their lane, just got close), and another time decided to only change lanes halfway into the left turn lane.
I agree that it needs to be near 100% on city streets before it’s ready for launch because that 10% difference is HUGE when it comes to safety. If their “level 5” taxi isn’t using some vastly improved software, it needs to be kept off the street.
Same. I love my FSD and I’ve watched it go from 80% a few years ago to around 95% now.
Questions are growing? Haven’t they been out already for fucking years??
Tesla keeps promising things are fixed in the next update, then the next update, and so on. I don’t think Tealas have the proper sensors to avoid collisions and their algorithms don’t think like an attentive driver does.
Everybody knows that tesla sacrificed lidar sensors with cameras because it was cheaper. Yes, lidar can do it easily
It’s not seeing that’s the problem. It’s what to do with the information about what you see.
It’s both. Imagine being half blind flying a jet and you don’t understand what the instruments do.
That’s a typical Tesla engineer these days. (He’s fired the whole team at least twice now. The guys that are left are the most inept I desperately need a job engineers out there).
At least they have it. It’s incredible to see videos of the FSD on highways, and Waymo robot taxis in the USA.
I wish we had technology in Europe.
Tesla’s biggest issue is Musk.
Tesla held a commanding lead over the other automakers in the self-driving segment a few years ago. Now they’ve all mostly caught up thanks to Musk’s unhinged firings. Tesla lost some of its best talent for no other reason than not wanting to work for an egomaniacal billionaire nut job.
Tesla needs to fire Musk before he runs it into the ground just like he’s done to Twitter.
Tesla has never, ever, had anything remotely resembling a lead in autonomous vehicles. The actual AV industry doesn’t consider them part of it.
They’re only ahead of everyone else because they were prepared to release a product that was untested and quite possibly unsafe, whereas the other car manufacturers realized that would be detrimental to their business, both in terms of reputation, and the inevitable lawsuits. Tesla just does whatever though.
other car manufacturers realized that would be detrimental to their business
Ummm do they? I don’t care enough about cars to remember the details, but I’m sure I’ve heard some controversies about safety for at least a couple of brands
All the other self-driving cars are still very limited in their interactions with the real world. Only allowed in very limited locations and on predefined routes.
Tesla is the only people running self-driving car tech in the wild as far as I’m aware.
Is the self driving in the room with us right now?
Shhhh! I accidentally opened this thread while my phone was connected and EVERYTHING IS FINE RECALCULATING ROUTE.
Tech bros underestimating the complexity of real life yet again
