Me, with a 7800X3D:
My ex, with a 7800X3D:
Anotger friend, with a 7600:
Collectively: “why would we upgrade just one generation?”
Like, sure, I have a Threadripper 1st and 2nd gen. I’m weird like that. I have a VII and a 7900 XTX. But the 7xxx is fine. I went from TR 2950X to the 7800X3D. Do I want more cores? Fuck yeah. Am I going to pay thousands of dollars for a modern high-core TR? Lmfao no.
If I was building a new machine for someone, sure, 9xxx. But shit, even a 3xxx in my network is still kicking ass. Why the hell would I upgrade when I don’t want to? And the 7xxx is cheaper and - mostly - offers the same performance.
Drop the price if they want to sell more, simple as that. And don’t expect upgrades every release family.
For me, it’s because:
- I have a 5950X and it seems pointless to upgrade from there. Sure the new stuff is faster, but disproportionately so for the price. I would need to replace a bunch of components.
- I recently upgraded to 128GB RAM, and it was cheaper to do that with DDR4
- I’ve had 2 faulty Ryzen processors (1700X, then my first 5950X), and I’ve learned to wait until the kinks are ironed out.
Out for curiosity, why do you need 128gb of ram?
Price is probably #1.
Bit of speculation here with no real sources ; There was a boom in late 2022 through 2023 when people could finally reliably get parts again. I’m guessing many who wanted to upgrade already did in the past 2 years. Anyone who got a new computer in 2020 onward should be fine for at least a few more years. I think the average is around 7 years.
The market will probably see a surge between 2027-2030 as people begin replacing their “covid era” computers.The market right now is mainly seeing anyone with a pre-covid computer who bought a nice top of line machine for about 1k. They’re looking at current pricing and choosing to go with today’s mid-low teir, which will outclass their old 201x top of the line computer.
Another factor could be AAA gaming hasn’t exactly been pumping out hit new tiles the last 5 years. People who wanted to play cyberpunk or Eldon ring already upgraded by the time Wukon came out.
With less new games requirng the latest and greatest means the need to upgrade is going drop too.
Again all speculation…
I’m sorry, but I don’t have a grand to throw at a single fucking processor. I can put together a whole computer for that kind of coin.
The thing is the 7800x3d is a gem of a CPU. It’s has more compute than I could use and it’s low power and runs cool.
I’m going to run it until I can’t anymore, and I’ll continue to upgrade around the AMD ecosystem unless they stop being awesome.
I’ve run a 7800X3D - I would say it runs cool; my 5800X3D did but the 7800 seems to just run as much as it can until it’s under the temp ceiling, favouring performance over temp.
Price drop put the 7900x at bargain bin prices and I bought that instead.
Everything is expensive and everyone’s underemployed thanks to all the damage large corporations have done to the job market and the economy as a whole.
I just want to make almost as much money as I made as a shift manager in fast food 10 years ago, which is a job I ironically walked away from to get educated. I just hope the democrats win so they can maybe reverse some of that anti homelessness stuff because we’re all going to need it.
100%
People are making more money and growing poorer by the month.
I’m still on AM4, mainly because the jump is very expensive, essentially a new pc.
I would need a new CPU, motherboard and Ram to fit in my itx case.
I’m honestly thinking of building a new AM4 PC. 5700X3D is under 200€ new, cheap mobo, cheap DDR4 RAM and tbh the benchmarks aren’t that far off this new 9xxx series in gaming (which is the only thing I really care about). I’d rather save some money and get a better GPU
I just built a computer, and honestly I didn’t need much more CPU than the Ryzen 3600 from my old one. CPUs don’t go obsolete the way they used to.
I went with a 7000 series pretty much entirely because my new motherboard said “Compatible with 7000 series. Compatible with 9000 series with a BIOS update.” And I didn’t want to bother with having to get a loaner 7000 series to do a BIOS update, then swap CPUs.
I’m still using a i7-3630QM and a R5-1600.
They are both enough for what I do with them. Why would I upgrade?
What are you using your computer for?? Just web browsing or something‽ I just upgraded from an i5-6600k/1060 setup and for like the past year and some change I’ve been hitting 100% CPU usage with just a few programs open, not even gaming lol
And that was with a CPU 3 generations newer lmao
Sounds like some bad software or something extra CPU intensive then. I use R5 2600 on W11 and it can handle everything I need with ease like web browsing (depending on pages and tab count it can be quite demanding), at least 3 VMs at the same time (2 Windows, 1 Linux), gaming, video transcoding. All that is not happening at the same time, but I can’t remember last time I checked Task Manager to see what is using my CPU.
The R5 2600 is not only newer than my old i5 and faster, it also has a LOT more threads (12 vs 4) and an extra 2 full cores
Making it excellent for the multi threaded workloads (VMs) and leaving room for non-multithreaded optimized workloads
I have an RTSP client program running all the time displaying a handful of camera feeds. It had a ~45-55% average CPU usage even with GPU decoding/encoding enabled on it.
That same piece of software on my much newer 7600 changing absolutely nothing else software wise (I just dropped in the SSD from my old build) that same software barely cracks 5%
iCUE (for Corsair RGB control (yes I know there’s open source versions I just never got around to it lol)) had a similar story with ~30-40% before and barely 4% now
Gaming, working (data processing, physical modelling).
The trick is to use a lower overhead OS than Windows.
Gaming is one thing, a lot is GPU bound anyways, probably the same with “physical modeling”
But you cannot tell me your “data processing” would not be greatly sped up by using a newer proc (assuming it’s not also GPU bound). Does it work, sure, but if it takes you 2 hours for it to process now but <30 minutes on something newer that’s just a waste of time, resources and money. It’s incredibly inefficient.
On the flip side, if all your work is GPU bound no wonder a 3rd gen proc from 2012 is keeping up lol
I’m currently in the market for a new CPU for my PC, so I did my research and I’m not going to buy a Zen 5 CPU either. The reason is simple: The Zen 4 X3D CPUs are faster. Because of that, everyone who wants a new CPU now is getting the Zen 4 X3Ds and everyone who can wait, is waiting for the Zen 5 X3Ds. There’s no point in getting the Zen 5 CPUs that are currently out.
Edit: Actually, after reading the top reply, I’m not sure anymore if the Zen 5s aren’t the better choice after all
We’re all broke and performance improvements have been basically stagnant?
We’re spending our money on fucking groceries… It’s time to optimize, not upscale.
You’d think there would be some value-add in cranking out the older chips faster and at a lower price point, rather than aiming for a marginal improvement in spec that nobody has a use for yet.
I thought about an upgrade for a minute from my 3700X, but I realized none of the games I play or programs I use are demanding on CPU enough that it would make any real difference in my experience.
Games have kind of stalled out for me too, I haven’t played a AAA game in years it feels like, and the other games I do play are not that demanding on modern hardware.
I would also need to upgrade to DDR5 RAM which is just more cost for a marginal upgrade.
I’m in the same boat.
Have the 3600 with a 1050ti (!), and its does a good job when I play the 2-3 games I like to play. 32gb for my apps and docker containers. Plenty.
I see no reason to upgrade.
It has always been like this for me. Sticked to a platform until it died and never upgraded (OK ram maybe) until I was forced to.
My gaming desktop has a 5950x, I can run virtual machines and all games just fine. No reason to upgrade.
My Plex server runs an Intel 10400, handles everything I throw at it just fine. No reason to upgrade.
My home theater PC runs a Ryzen 1700 and again, runs just fine. No reason to upgrade.
I think the newest CPU in my house is either my Steam Deck’s APU or the one in my PS5.
I bought a 7800x3d, so I’m not in the market for a new CPU for years to come. If I hadn’t already bought it, I’d buy it now.
Same! I went from a 2700x to the 7800x3d. I’ll probably upgrade in 4-7 years depending on my financial situation and the specs for new hardware.
