• DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
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    2 months ago

    “Who am I supposed to sell my house in Florida to!??!!?!??”

    Conservatives. It’s a victimless crime. Come on guys.

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    Why don’t people who have had their house burned to the ground in the wildfires just sell their homes and move? 🤪

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    2 months ago

    One would think that the political party of “bUtT thE bIbLE!!!111one” would pay attention to the part about, ya know, even mountains flooding.

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      Fun fact: there isn’t any state that is safe from climate change disasters no matter what party is in power. Also, NC has a democratic governor and half of its House members are democrats.

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        Least affected states is/will be the Upper Midwest and even there, Republican politicians are making up for it by literally poisoning the drinking water.

        Because they’re cartoon villains, except dumber than Elmer Fudd.

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        The GOP has a supermajority in the NC House. NC has a democratic governor, who is term limited, and a right wing lt. governor. Plus the GOP state legislature went ham with gerrymandering and redistricting before this upcoming election. So the republican hold on the state might deepen.

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        Some nice points but also NC voted for Trump in the last two presidential elections - and this despite having been a swing state prior to that?

        So yeah, not as deep a red state as they could be, but they were still fairly influential in e.g. dropping out of the Paris Climate Accord, not merely individually as a state but in causing the entire United States of America to do so.

        The best time to have done something was yesterday - or in this case, 8 years ago.

        Though the second best time is now.

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    2 months ago

    As a person that packed up and moved from Florida. It was one of the hardest things I’ve ever done.

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      Leaving Florida was one of the more joyous occasions in my life. I moved somewhere with earthquakes and wildfires, but at least my daughters will have access to reproductive healthcare and if one of my kids turns out gay or trans they won’t be under existential thread. Natural Florida I absolutely love, esp when it used to be weird (a la Carl Hiaasen) but christ almighty is it a failed state.

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        2 months ago

        I felt this. One of my partners cars was hit with a bat because she had a pride sticker on it. Our partner was asked to resign as a math teacher because they’re trans and respected students’ pronouns. By the end of COVID I was concealed carrying just to go grocery shopping.

        I miss Florida wildlife deeply. I was part of Florida trail association thought I was never going to leave but life throws curve balls it’s up to you to figure out how to catch them.

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          Nothing quite like Florida cold springs for sure. I lived in Orlando and definitely took advantage of Rock Springs, Wekiwa, Blue Springs, etc. Truly magical places.

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            Thanks friend you reminded me of vortex springs in Ponce De Leon that’s some good memories.

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          If we stopped growing almonds for the entire freaking world Norcal would have lots and lots of water. 80% of California water goes to agriculture, 20% of that is for tree nuts, and 2/3rds of them are exported overseas.

          I do agree (as a Michigan native originally) the best prospects over the next 50 years are Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. But both career prospects and winter make that a hard miss for me.

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    Landslide mudslides on mountains are way more scary than floods. Floods you get a boat ok, landslides you’re dead and buried.

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        Profanity filters barely begins to scratch the surface of the heavy restrictions on lemmy.ml. The admins there are also well-known for banning people from not just communities but the entire instance if you criticize China, Russia, North Korea, etc., or certain leaders of such, or communist, etc. Imagine a Truth Social instance, except claiming to be leftist instead of right-wing - their way is the correct way and that’s final, dissent not allowed.

        As it result, it has developed into quite the echo chamber. Not that that matters much to you bc you can access most communities across the entire Fediverse from there, or vice versa.

        What may matter to you though is that many people, myself included, have user blocks in place (and lemmy.cafe has even defederated from it entirely) that prevents us from getting notifications from people on that instance. Blocking the big three instances (hexbear.net, Lemmygrad.ml, and lemmy.ml) cuts out >99% of the toxic crap coming our way, at the expense of conversations with innocent people who merely were not aware of the history of that instance and its relation to the Fediverse at large. I also lose out on a few larger communities that way but for me at least I consider it well worth the cost. So if you ever feel isolated, like people from other instances are ignoring what you say… it may be due to this effect, i.e. we may literally not even be aware that you replied to us at all.

        So now you know.

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            1 month ago

            Do as you want, but I wanted you to know your options!

            Speaking of, nothing needs to be permanent - just make an alt somewhere and check it out, and you can always keep your old account (you will ofc find yourself using it less, if you enjoy the new one better:-).

            Also, look at the Import/Export Settings section in your Settings menu for easier setup of your subscriptions and such.

            A lot of people are recommending lemm.ee these days, but there are so many cool options to explore, just don’t let that thought hold you back from doing anything at all.

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        wth, we have profanity filters here?

        Welcome to Lemmy.ML, where “bitch” and the n-word are equally profane, and the admins render both as removed so you never fully know what’s going on. If you want to have a better time, find an instance that isn’t run by tankies. I made the mistake of choosing ML as my first Lemmy instance, and I didn’t realize how much better Lemmy is when you’re not under their thumb until I left.

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        The rivers in and around Asheville were rising a foot a minute in some places. Those waters also had cars, trucks, trailers and roofs in them.
        Mud/landslides are awful, but so is flooding and it can happen a lot quicker then most people think. I’m very lucky to have escaped in time.

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    This is why I get angry that whenever I complain on Reddit about climate change because of massive heatwaves someone said “just emigrate north lmao”. Neoliberals are deluded, we have to solve the problem, period.

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      Most people take complaining as an opportunity to give advice. Moving to a less risk adverse area is good advice and probably the most any one person can achieve in terms of reducing their personal climate change related risks. If you don’t want to get those kinds of answers you have to specify that you either dont actually want advice or that you specifically want advice that you personally can’t do anything with.

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    2 months ago

    I’m in the Indianapolis area and just got off the phone with my home owners insurance company about damage to my roof. They are attributing it to Hurricane Helene.

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    The Appalachian mountains getting massive flooding all the time. The only places you can really build anything are along river valleys in the mountains, so they flood when big storms come through.

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      I used to live in the area and the “massive flooding all the time” is literally nothing compared to the amount of devastation in the area currently. Entire communities have literally been obliterated by landslides. Thousands of people are stranded because of damaged roads. Hundreds of thousands are still without power. In some isolated areas it is going to take weeks/months to rebuild infrastructure to even access the areas, let alone repair homes and return electricity.

      I’m actually upset, because your comment is implying that this is a run-of-the-mill occurrence in the area. This is an unprecedented tragedy and the worst flooding the area has seen since 1916 (and this time it affects thousands more people because of growth in the region.)

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        I’m not saying this isn’t unprecedented, but flooding (not at this level) has always been a reality of life in Appalachia. I remember going to Kentucky to help out after flooding in 2007 or 2008.

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      The area I live in has flooded 3 times since it was first inhabited in in the 1780s. 1915, 2004, and Helene. Helene had about as much water as those previous two times combined.

      “floods all the time” bite me

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        Not every town is gonna flood every year. But there are major floods across Appalachia every year because of the geography. It’s always been a high flood rosk area, which was a major reason for the TVA back in the 30’s. Electrify the area and control flooding. I’m not arguing against climate change. I’m just saying that “flooding in the mountains” isnt some Noah’s arc type shit.

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    I’m pretty sure there is nowhere in the entire universe you can go that wouldn’t be subject to some kind of natural disaster except maybe the voids. The big swaths of space with literally nothing in them? But then you’d just be subject to man-made disasters like your space ship/station crumbling to pieces due to poor maintenance or someone going space crazy and murdering everyone aboard.

    Even then you might get obliterated by a GRB from some far-off solar system.

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      New England is pretty chill. Well, like anywhere with flowing water some regions are flood risks, but that is all very predictable if you go in looking for that info. Aside from that the worst you can count on is snow and ice storms. But at least property damage is usually low, just gaps without power in some areas. Frozen pipes are more preventable, but also more likely to cause significant damage. We do technically get some little earthquakes. And I think once a year or so tornados do happen, but the last time I remember one causing real damage I was in high-school. We actually were going to an event in Colorado and we flew over the storm system that would result in the tornado. That was like… God around 20 years ago T_T

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      I hope you’re treated with the exact amount of compassion you’re showing here when climate change affects your home.

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        Excuse me while I laugh in Californian wildfires.

        The difference between us is that I am not shocked when floodzones flood, forest fires burn, and landslides slide. The only “unnatural” change in the environment is fucking people. We turn swamps into cities and then cry tragedy when they turn back into swamps. We build cities in deserts and cry that there is not enough water. We overpopulated the planet and then complain that it is killing us. We are the problem. Nature is just doing what nature has always done. The nature of Nature is change.

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          You’re being downvoted because there is a perceived indifference to the suffering of others. Compartmentalizing that, you are 100% correct. Don’t build civilizations in areas prone to natural disasters. The original post still holds though. If the mountains are flooding, where is safe anymore?

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            Brazil have been known as a really stable place without extreme climate events, but this year we had one of the worst floods on the history of the country that got all the insurance industry with their pants down. And now everyone is having to re model their assumptions and the re insurance rates went to the roof.

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              Brazil is a gigantic bowl catching the wet air coming in from the Atlantic. Ofc it floods. You’re only feeling it now because deforestation is out of control and surprise! Those forests protected the rest of the area from the worst of the floods.

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      I live in the mountains. 2000 feet above sea level. The nearest river is a mile away and 40 feet of elevation below us. The river normally is 3 feet deep and 10 feet wide, when the area gets a lot of rain it can run about 8 feet deep, but no worries because that’s how high the bank is. When Helene hit, the flood waters rose up to our street.

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        2000 feet is barely foothills. We build taller buildings than 2000 feet. When I hear “mountains” i expect a visable treeline at the very least. Mt hood, Mt Shasta, the Rockies, the Sierra Nevadas, those are mountains and ranges. You live in the hills.