That place is just 4chan for commies, isn’t it?
I question if they’re even communists, considering most commie-spaces throw them out, and I’ve never actually seen them talk about communism in the modern day.
Marxist-leninist is the term they use (.ml) which should be called stalinism as that’s it’s ideological father.
If called out they can confront with huge diatribes with often ready maar copy pastes from red sails.
Why do you think they turn tankie instead of being a communist?
Honestly it is probably just old style USSR propaganda
Inability to create honest discourse. It’s why they rely on copy-paste responses for most comments and an image macros of a pig shitting on its own balls when you really get them cornered in a fallacy.
Easily sucked in an information funnel that’s very hard core. This is not unique. In the nineteenth century some hard core communists bored against help for laborers, as they felt it would happen their appetite for revolution.
Mostly salon communists, mind you.
Yes
Basically except they don’t use anonymous accounts like 4chan does, I imagine it would be even worse if they did.
they’d get their feelings hurt with mean words
-Hates anyone who isn’t a complete believer in the “cause” -Praises genocidal countries like USSR and China who killed millions -Absolute dicks and generally people who irritate others “wHY DoES nO ONe LIkE uS?1?1”
I’ve read the screen copy and can’t see any reference to “genocidal countries” at all (BTW you forgot Israel, didn’t you?). They are just telling the american way of life won’t cope with inequity, climate change and other countries wanting to live the same way, and centrist lefitism is not enough to change things…
I’m not saying Israel isn’t genocidal, cause it most definitely is. I’m saying that tankies support for other genocidal countries is evil. Also hypocritical seeing how they support one genocidal regime and against another.
If that last sentence is all that tankies believed in, this community wouldn’t exist. People aren’t against tankies because they’re against the problems we face, it’s because they hate the American regime so much that they see the Chinese and Russian regimes as a better option despite them all being terrible
Well, I guess I’m not a tankie then, nor an American either. I was born as a western citizen, in the good side of the world. Then… I have been fooledva deceived by the western world. I don’t expect China, or Russia, or any dictatorship to do any good. I was expecting the US and Europe and even Israel to do so. Then… About Grahib, Guantanamo, Gaza, Snowden’s revelations, Rainbow warrior, hate, lies, massacres, … Western world in not any better than the rest… Not worst, but certainly not better. And I’m sad.
What is the best? If you even think there’s such a thing
I do not think there is such a thing in our modern day world. Hate is everywhere unfortunately.
you can view multiple posts throughout this community where they praise genocides
and again, man, what is it with people always trying to find anything they can to squeeeeze in israel and palestine. like bruh, come on, you’re more obnoxious than preachers on a train.
Well, genocide is a word calling for references to Israel these days… Having extremists religious supremacists leading a country is rarely a call for humanism.
Yeah, I don’t care. Just try to stay on topic.
You can view multiple posts throughout this community of tankies praising massacres and genocides.
I hate all genocides.
Unlike tankies.
I’ve read the screencopy and can’t see any reference to America.
It sounds miserable to be them
Yeah I don’t get how people can be so hateful of everything
Meanwhile, I can’t, for the life of me, understand why anyone would want to be communist rather than being a libertarian socialist or anarchist. Unless they think that they’re the ones that will be telling people what to do, rather than be the ones getting told what to do?
M-Ls generally hold to the idea that revolution is necessary and M-L is, pretty indisputably, the most successful ideology at launching a worker’s revolution.
Keeping Da Revolushion socialist is something I assume they think they’ll be able to do a better job at, if they’re not just in full on tankie denial.
Yeah, I got downvoted once the MLs found my comment (in a .world thread) for wondering why far leftists were so convinced that the only answer was socialism (as opposed to soc dem) when we haven’t seen it work very well in the real world. I guess Cuba and China are good enough examples for them to be fully convinced that we shouldn’t emulate Scandinavia, because that’s built on oppression and China isn’t, or something like that.
The funny thing about Scandinavian economics is that it proves that social democracy both improves the average standard of living and doesn’t even inconvenience the oligarchy, the wealth gap in Scandinavian countries is (or was) larger than America’s. That’s also what they find unacceptable about it though.
But you do need to note that Marxist revolutions don’t happen in countries where people are mostly comfortable or hopeful, they happen in Tsarist Russia and Warlord Era China, and I think that’s ultimately why they’re not willing to settle for compromise of what an actual centrist economic position looks like, it’s an expression of accelerationist thought.
it’s an expression of accelerationist thought.
…And that’s the really terrifying thing. How many vulnerable people are they willing to see die for their accelerationist fantasy?
I think they’d argue that capitalism is on track to kill every living human being, but it’s not like China is meeting their climate goals so 🤷♂️
TBF, China is doing a good job at transitioning to renewables. Which isn’t the same as meeting their climate goals, but it’s better than we’re doing in the US overall.
Yeah, China is more than aware than oil dependency is both a guaranteed disaster and a national security issue when you don’t have any or enough, while our dumbass oil barons can’t quite grasp the idea that it’s a limited resource if nothing else.
Trust me bro, let’s do this revolution what can go wrong 🤡
These ones love authoritarianism far more than they like leftist economics, so yeah I suspect that’s it.
“Brown People”
Least racist Tankie
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I read it as specifically criticising NIMBYs and suburban redlining/urban sprawl.
Because obviously that’s what turning people off, not their full throated support of Putin’s invasion and “protest voting” to put a fascist in office.
