They need to go back to making manual updating a thing, plus separating out critical security patches, from their stupid feature fluff.
I’ve had my system broken by Windows Update way more times than I’ve ever been hacked or caught a virus/worm.
Windows is just not quite there yet for desktop use. Give them a few years to clean up their sharp edges and clunky UX and add some long overdue features, then maybe it’ll be a real alternative.
May we live long enough to witness the year of the Windows desktop!
Me just enjoying linux working while people around me constantly complain about windows. At this point have the money for mac or use linux is what i would say but of course you cant expect people to switch a part of their computer they didnt even know could be switched out.
The latest update broke ipv4 on my ThinkPad, ipv6 works just fine. How is that even possible?
It seems to me that Windows, which used to be reasonably stable (say, between XP and 10), as Microsoft systems go, has gone into beta status with Windows 11 and is now slipping into a kind of perpetual alpha.
Disclaimer, I haven’t used Windows seriously for decades (now and then for the odd game or for VR) and only boot it every other month to see what it looks like.
I never had stability issues in years of being on W11, Bazzite on the other hand, has locked up on me twice in the 2 weeks I’ve used it.
Disclaimer, I haven’t used Windows seriously for decades
Yeah we got that just by reading the first part of your comment…
I’m really amazed by their consistent win11 patch fuckups. I’ve never seen it in this dimension with win10. Luckily I’m still on win10 and pretty sure I’ll get the updates past 2025 somehow.
If you don’t mind wiping out and reinstalling the system, you can get the LTSC ISO from MS and activate with this: https://massgrave.dev/
(This site also has the ISOs)
Crashing is the smallest problem. All that sypware, ads and artificial idiocy they are embedding in the bloated excuse of an OS is way worse than any crash. I am so glad I switched to GNU/Linux (openSUSE Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma desktop, after seeing how well gaming works on Steam Deck I also switched to GNU/Linux for gaming) and it is so so much nicer to have an OS that is fast, stable and actually respects basic human rights like privacy and freedom.
It crashes my gaming computer regularly and I consider it poisoned. I am moving to Mac for good idc about gaming anymore if this is what its like now.
If you’re ready to abandon Windows anyway just give Linux a try so you can keep gaming…
But there must be another issue with your setup for it to constantly crash honestly, I’m daily running Windows 11 on a gaming PC and have no issues.
I’ve switched my gaming PC to Nobara Linux and it’s been great
I’ve come to truly believe that MS stopped caring too much about windows now. They’re focused more on ads and other subscription services. They are still in the mindset of “we are the only player in the field and people can’t live without us”.
You’d have thought they’d have learned from losing the browser monopoly they had 15 years ago due to complacency
They are a mindless organization, not one or a few using logic. Everyone working there can figure out the general issues, on their own, for sure. But it’s an out of control huge organization. Even the top leadership is along for the ride at this point.
Every department is headed by competent and intelligent people, I assume. But they each only control a small slice of the environment, and even in each division there are many things the middle management cannot control directly. Too big
It’s not like a car manufacturer, there is an exponential difference in the number of parts to control and the complexity.
When the sales, and other parts are woven in, I doubt there is a dozen people alive who can explain how all the company structure works together
This isn’t the first time they’ve pushed an update which crashes PCs.
IIRC, the development/testing is done on Windows under VMs rather than a sample of real world hardware, so it’s like “well yeah, duh, no wonder why you keep releasing updates that crash & freeze end users machines”
Between shit like this, Crowdstrike, and Microsoft Recall I wonder why anyone even bothers with Windows anymore. I have both Mac and Linux (both which I love equally). Both of them don’t seem to have anywhere near these levels of issues - Macs I would hope not given the eye-watering amount I’ve spent on it, and Linux I could be forgiven if it did give me hassle, but no.
Not as if updates that break things aren’t a thing on Linux…
Between shit like this, Crowdstrike, and Microsoft Recall I wonder why anyone even bothers with Windows anymore
Out of necessity most likely, sometimes you either have no alternatives for proprietary software on Linux, or it’s extremely cumbersome to get and maintain such software on Linux.
the development/testing is done on Windows under VMs rather than a sample of real world hardware
And yet there’s a recent update that keeps killing my Windows VMs. They’ll run for a while then one day they install the update and won’t boot again. It really feels like MS have lost control of Windows testing these days.
Because they put micro effort to test their sofware before production as Micro$oft name suggest
For those who don’t know in Microsoft’s name micro means how much effort they’re putting to make their software and optimaze them.
It wasn’t first time when M$ made that serious mistake. It happned hundreds of times for almost a decade.
So… software with micro effort…
Been working there long then?
What a childishly obnoxious comment
I up voted it for their effort anyway. It’s contributing discussion. Including you calling them out on it. You also deserve an (ultimately meaningless and fleeting) up vote.
