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What’s more depressing than American healthcare?
Canadian conservatives replacing theirs with the American system without a fight.
It’s pathetic. We are willing choosing to let it go, despite being such a huge advantage of being Canadian
I heard about a study that women who own horses live longer. The comment below was "if you can afford a horse you can probably afford health insurance. It isn’t the horse "
Essentially yes but it’s not the underlying cause, as it wouldn’t also be true in places with free at the point of use healthcare.
The group “women who own horses” will, on average, be wealthier of course. However, it will contain an abnormally large group of people who can afford not to work.
Wealth is the biggest indicator of life expectancy. Adjusting for healthcare costs, the change happens when people earn enough passively to not work or significantly reduce their hours to a very small number.
Imo, the answer is “we’re all forced to work ourselves into early graves, unless you can afford to live off of other people working themselves into an early grave for you.”
By aspiring to own a horse or live by the water or whatever, you can accidentally afford healthcare too!
It would be funny if the punchline wasn’t the first thing you read.
Tbf diet is a factor, too. Not living in a food desert is a huge plus.
But seriously, the Mediterranean Diet is also a thing discussed in Europe while the north is wealthier and has better social security. Still, no one recommends the Scandinavian Diet or living without sunlight in winter. I still value the post as a meme. I don’t want to be the actually guy but just provide some context.
Didn’t someone prove that these statistics are all thrown off by pension fraud?
Wouldn’t surprise me
https://allthatsinteresting.com/blue-zones-supercentenarians
This is what I was remembering. The “blue zones” that supposedly have much longer life spans also coincidentally are rife with pension fraud.
More so, we can replicate those diets and not see anything like the changes people claim come from just changing the diet.
The answer is and has always been “we’re all forced to work ourselves into early graves.” We can replicate everything except not working 80% of you adult awake hours, to be allowed to live.
As a culture, we just don’t have the courage to deal with that.
Yeah it was all pension fraud, but the current idea of a Mediterranean diet has had quite a bit of testing since and is probably healthy
Cutting out processed food is going to be healthy anyway
And they walk a lot more
6$ to see the doctor? That’s outrageous!
Ha ha yeah I don’t pay anything.
Have to pay upfront though before I get it all back (you don’t have to if you are poor enough), that dental work made a hole in my account for two weeks… but getting 800€ back is sweet too.
Move more. Eat better. Have better access to medical care and no stigma in using it.
There was also an article a while back that most “blue zones” (I think they were called) are probably BS with inconsistent and bad measurement.
Bad measurements, cases contrary to the researcher’s point were excluded, the biggest factor in places with too many people over age 100 was pension fraud - 40 year olds claimed to be 60 to get a pension, 40 years later they’re 80 year olds pretending to be 100
The Mediterranean diet doesn’t exist, these countries have longer life expectancies because they’re bad at reporting deaths and their governments think that they have a bunch of 110 year olds.
Of course, the dropping life expectancy in the US is almost certainly due to depression and lack of healthcare.
The researcher who debunked these so-called “blue zones” received an Ig Nobel prize this year.
That’s just the unusual prevalence of 100+ year olds, in the so called “blue zones.” Overall country life expectancy statistics aren’t thrown off by that type of fraud as much, because the vast majority of people don’t live anywhere close to 100, and these specific blue zones are a very small overall portion of the larger country.
For the most part, we can observe a correlation between wealth/income and life expectancy, where the blue zones are outliers on that general trend (both long lived and very poor). So there’s no reason to believe that these small communities are poisoning the overall stats in any significant quantity.
Yeah thats true. And I agree with the overall idea of better health care = longer life. Just wanted to reinforce that the whole “Mediterranean diet” thing is somewhat debunked.
No, the Mediterranean diet has plenty of evidence in favor, including actual interventions where groups were switched to the diet and studied compared to a control group, and had better health outcomes. Those studies, plus population-wide data, supports the idea that a Mediterranean diet improves longevity and health in general.
The best thing for massive life expectancy increases in your country:
- Keep poor birth records
- Offer generous age pensions
Always wanted to ask, what are the countries with accessible medicine? Could anyone recommend?
The sociopath capitalists want us poories to be jealous of their concierge medicine based longevity to feel superior, but jokes on them, they made society so shitty and desperate that we see premature death as peace at last!
Checkmate, owner class!
