“If my friend decides to start slitting her wrists who cares? as long as nobody forces her to do it”
“If my friend decides to join a cult and drink some koolaid who cares? as long as they aren’t forced”
“If my friend decides to start dating a known rapist who cares, as long as nobody is forcing her to do it”
You’re a myopic p.o.s with the intellectual capacity of a worm.
The reality is, consent does not transcend morals, societal good, or personal health. And people who try to pretend that personal choice is the only thing that matters are retards who understand nothing of the complexities of human motivation or the damage a person can do to societal norms and themselves on a “voluntary basis”. Get a grip.
The fact that you equate sex work with slitting wrists says a lot more about you than anything else, and shows you aren’t willing to talk in good faith, your mind is made up.
God forbid it’s something the want to do and something they enjoy doing. It’s not hard drugs, they aren’t addicted to it. It doesn’t harm them, if it does harm them then I’m all for helping them get out. If they chose it, it doesn’t harm them, it doesn’t harm you, then who cares. But you obviously equate sex work to harming yourself so I’d say you’re already completely one-minded about this.
you don’t know much about neuroscience, or psychology, do you? You don’t know much about neuroplasticity and morphology and sexual neurochemistry, do you?.. you are naive. The act of sex is a neurochemical experience, that has evolved to directly change neurochemistry, and if pushed beyond certain bounds, the powerful cocktails of neurotransmitters released during the act of intimacy have damaging effects in the way they change cognition. There are literal brains scans of prostitutes and sex workers over time that show how the brain changes in ONLY NEGATIVE WAYS.
Bro literally watch the documentary. She breaks down in tears, and says she feels like she’s “only good for one thing”. You don’t understand anything. “CoNsEnT” does not transcend morals, societal good, or personal health.
You think it “doesn’t harm them” but it OBVIOUSLY DOES. Watch the documentary you fucking moron. Literally, just question your assumption for HALF A SECOND and look up some studies and you’ll find that this behavior IS HARMFUL. And not just to her, but to society as a whole. So of course it impacts me! Jeez, you have the intelligence of a rock.
But people like you want your porn, you want to be able to do whatever you want and ignore the consequences, so you moralize consent and pretend you’re enlightened and open-minded and ignore all the warning signs because you yourself are along for the ride. You disgust me.
I’m not saying it isn’t her choice, I’m saying she obviously needs help. That even if its her choice, that doesn’t mean she doesn’t need help. If you saw someone engaging in self-destructive behavior, you would still want to help them right? A crack addict technically “chooses” to do drugs, that doesn’t mean you should just leave them to themselves.
obviously, at a granular level, there’s nothing you can do outside of refuse to give them money. the same applies to porn stars etc. But from a top-down level, like, a policy level, these people need help.
So it comes back to body autonomy. People can’t use their bodies to do things you don’t like… thats a hard rule to enforce… how far do you go? Can’t marry someone you don’t like? Can’t have sex with people you don’t like? Only sex for making babies? No tattoos?
And where ever you draw the line, someone else will want to draw the line someplace else.
Reinforcing age old historical norms is a great place to start. Like, I dunno, making sex work illegal. making non-committal sex taboo again. there are a lot of ways to do this.
historic norms is a huge menu; Women must cover themselves? Women must never be unguarded by a male? Women are responsible for bad things that happen to them? Shot-gun weddings? Women must get married by arrangement of their parents? etc, etc
What is the “this” that you want to “do”? What is your end goal? it sounds like you don’t want to be upset by what other people do, which is a moving goalpost
Do you ban divorce too? Because if someone got married to have sex, and now wants to divorce, that is basically them just having selfish sex, which you have established you don’t like.
Also if you ban sex work, what are you replacing it with? Universal Basic Income?
You want the power to limit other people’s human rights, that needs to come with responsibilities you now owe those people - you have to take care of them now that your acting like their overbearing parent.
“iF sHe ChOoSeS tO dO iT wHo CaReS”
“If my friend decides to start slitting her wrists who cares? as long as nobody forces her to do it” “If my friend decides to join a cult and drink some koolaid who cares? as long as they aren’t forced” “If my friend decides to start dating a known rapist who cares, as long as nobody is forcing her to do it”
You’re a myopic p.o.s with the intellectual capacity of a worm.
The reality is, consent does not transcend morals, societal good, or personal health. And people who try to pretend that personal choice is the only thing that matters are retards who understand nothing of the complexities of human motivation or the damage a person can do to societal norms and themselves on a “voluntary basis”. Get a grip.
The fact that you equate sex work with slitting wrists says a lot more about you than anything else, and shows you aren’t willing to talk in good faith, your mind is made up.
God forbid it’s something the want to do and something they enjoy doing. It’s not hard drugs, they aren’t addicted to it. It doesn’t harm them, if it does harm them then I’m all for helping them get out. If they chose it, it doesn’t harm them, it doesn’t harm you, then who cares. But you obviously equate sex work to harming yourself so I’d say you’re already completely one-minded about this.
you don’t know much about neuroscience, or psychology, do you? You don’t know much about neuroplasticity and morphology and sexual neurochemistry, do you?.. you are naive. The act of sex is a neurochemical experience, that has evolved to directly change neurochemistry, and if pushed beyond certain bounds, the powerful cocktails of neurotransmitters released during the act of intimacy have damaging effects in the way they change cognition. There are literal brains scans of prostitutes and sex workers over time that show how the brain changes in ONLY NEGATIVE WAYS.
Bro literally watch the documentary. She breaks down in tears, and says she feels like she’s “only good for one thing”. You don’t understand anything. “CoNsEnT” does not transcend morals, societal good, or personal health.
You think it “doesn’t harm them” but it OBVIOUSLY DOES. Watch the documentary you fucking moron. Literally, just question your assumption for HALF A SECOND and look up some studies and you’ll find that this behavior IS HARMFUL. And not just to her, but to society as a whole. So of course it impacts me! Jeez, you have the intelligence of a rock.
But people like you want your porn, you want to be able to do whatever you want and ignore the consequences, so you moralize consent and pretend you’re enlightened and open-minded and ignore all the warning signs because you yourself are along for the ride. You disgust me.
Her body, your choice… Eh?
I’m not saying it isn’t her choice, I’m saying she obviously needs help. That even if its her choice, that doesn’t mean she doesn’t need help. If you saw someone engaging in self-destructive behavior, you would still want to help them right? A crack addict technically “chooses” to do drugs, that doesn’t mean you should just leave them to themselves.
I leave drug addicts alone. I see them all the time, give them room, they are adults and made their choice.
obviously, at a granular level, there’s nothing you can do outside of refuse to give them money. the same applies to porn stars etc. But from a top-down level, like, a policy level, these people need help.
So it comes back to body autonomy. People can’t use their bodies to do things you don’t like… thats a hard rule to enforce… how far do you go? Can’t marry someone you don’t like? Can’t have sex with people you don’t like? Only sex for making babies? No tattoos?
And where ever you draw the line, someone else will want to draw the line someplace else.
Reinforcing age old historical norms is a great place to start. Like, I dunno, making sex work illegal. making non-committal sex taboo again. there are a lot of ways to do this.
historic norms is a huge menu; Women must cover themselves? Women must never be unguarded by a male? Women are responsible for bad things that happen to them? Shot-gun weddings? Women must get married by arrangement of their parents? etc, etc
What is the “this” that you want to “do”? What is your end goal? it sounds like you don’t want to be upset by what other people do, which is a moving goalpost
Do you ban divorce too? Because if someone got married to have sex, and now wants to divorce, that is basically them just having selfish sex, which you have established you don’t like.
Also if you ban sex work, what are you replacing it with? Universal Basic Income?
You want the power to limit other people’s human rights, that needs to come with responsibilities you now owe those people - you have to take care of them now that your acting like their overbearing parent.