Esk 🐌⚡💜 (@esk@hachyderm.io)
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@thisismissem @mekkaokereke @dma so stats, based on dec 2024 exit run rate (rounded for simplicity): #hachyderm costs about $1600/mo to run. this is up somewhat, as we've started to add some infra as part of our resilience plan announced in nov. we currently have about: - 55000 users - 9700 MAU - 3.7M toots yielding: - $.03/user/mo - $.16/active user/mo - $.0004/toot from a raw compute & storage perspective. again, this is based on 100% volunteer work. today, our mods and infra folk graciously donate their time to keep this thing going. hypothetically, if we paid them, say, $120k USD/yr (chose this to make the math cleaner), that would add $10k/person/mo to the cost. if we go with a staff of eight (mix of mod & infra), that adds $80k/mo to the run rate, for a total of $81,600/mo, yielding: - $1.48/user/mo - $8.41/active user/mo - the toot figure is silly, so i'm not calculating it again :blobfoxlaugh: orders of magnitude of difference. we could argue about the staff size - i went with roughly what we have today and assumed we made everyone full time so they could hachy for 32/hr/wk vs. calculating the number of hours we actually work. e.g. maybe we could it out at ~$4.50/user/mo, but still a multiple orders of magnitude bump from the raw infra cost.
  • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
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    4 hours ago

    Hosting video is not the expensive part. It’s the distribution part that worries most people, but people forget that we have the technology to distribute large static files for decades already.

    Then why isn’t PeerTube more popular, especially with the amount of ads YouTube shows nowadays?

    Your behavior is not determined by what “teenagers” will or will not do.

    Why are you attacking me personally? Is it supposed to convince me to pay 29$/year for your service? If yes, sorry to say, but that’s not very effective, and I will keep donating to other instances like lemmy.zip, feddit.org or sopuli.xyz

    Why is that “every teenager” is fine with paying their phone bills, their Steam subscription, Spotify, Netflix, etc, etc… but not to pay for a service that is useful to them?

    If tomorrow a phone operator would provide the same service for free everyone would go there and leave the existing providers alone.

    Steam has no subscription, what do you mean?

    Spotify and Netflix are usually used in a family bundle because their parents find it convenient. But with the rising prices of streaming services, I see more and more people cancelling them and pirating content.

    But we didn’t get there overnight, and surely we did not get there on “community” alone.

    Did we get there because every Linux user paid a subscription to use the operating system?

    • rglullis@communick.newsOPEnglish
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      2 hours ago

      Then why isn’t PeerTube more popular, especially with the amount of ads YouTube shows nowadays?

      Because those ads also provide revenue for the content creators. Content creators also need to be paid for their work.

      Why are you attacking me personally?

      It’s not an attack, but it is curious that you feel it is. I am using you as an example because you are one of the most active users here, you are frequently found promoting the Fediverse as an alternative, yet you don’t find it important to support the people that are working to keep the whole thing running.

      I am using you as an example to show this common behavior here of people complaining about the state of the social media and exploitative companies, while at the same time exploiting the goodwill of the dozen people who are volunteering their time and money to put up this alternatives.

      It’s pure hypocrisy. I don’t care whether you specifically sign up to Communick or not, but I do care about the fact that people do not understand basic economics and go around expecting that the Fediverse can succeed without paying the people that work to make it happen.

      If tomorrow a phone operator would provide the same service for free everyone would go there and leave the existing providers alone.

      Only those who are completely financially illiterate would fall for such a ridiculous proposition.

      Did we get there because every Linux user paid a subscription to use the operating system?

      Seriously, I don’t know anymore if you are arguing in the good faith.

      The point is that we got there by having professionals being paid to work on it.