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    5 days ago

    What you interpret as me changing sides is just me agreeing with the relevant arguments you make.

    You are the only one assuming my thoughts here. All I am saying since the beginning is that your argument doesn’t contradict op’s meme. It is not a false statement, I never said as such, it simply doesn’t contradict it, and using it to imply that op is racist is the issue at hand.

    Freedom of speech does protect hate speech, that’s an issue with it, and it merits to be discussed. Every right comes with drawbacks, and closing the discution in favor of circlejerking is never a good idea.

    On that note I’m getting tired of this discussion too, so I’ll stop there. Once again, I do not have a grudge against you or your ideas, I just hate seeing falacious arguments beeing aplauded all the time, but I guess that’s unavoidable on social medias, no matter which. Have a nice day, and ty for this conversation.

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      Dude, you conceded that speech has consequences. Regardless of what, who, when and how they are implemented.

      I no longer understand what point you are trying to make.

      You keep trying to put words into my mouth.

      STOP

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        5 days ago

        Based on your argument, free speech means no consequences. Stop being a debate bro if you’re this bad at it.

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          Based on how you are reacting i should be able to spew slurs and not get shown the door.

          But hey, the consequences for my speech seem to be getting in to it with pedants who are laser focused on a couple words.

          Keep making my point for me.

          I said free speech is not without consequences. You want to mischaracterize what I have said.

          Don’t try to twist what others have said, debate bro.

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            I’m not the person you were arguing with. Based on your argument, your words, there are no consequences for discriminating against black people, and shouldn’t be.

            There are, if you include the law, but since we’re ignoring it to make your argument work, there’s no consequences.

            When arguing something, trying arguing the opposite to yourself before posting.

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              5 days ago

              And you came in with som dumb shit takes as well. You seem like a bad faith actor.

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                5 days ago

                No, Patrick, not everyone that disagrees with you is a bad faith actor.

                That’s part of the problem with modern liberals, you’ve propagandized yourselves into believing you’re the only intelligent creatures and anything or anyone else that doesn’t agree must be subhuman idiots. It’s why you people constantly fail to secure even the easiest of support.