• HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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    17 hours ago

    It seems unlikely that half of their users would be transgender, given that transgender people make up roughly .5% of the overall population; gay people (gay men + lesbians) make up roughly 4.5-5% of the overall population the last time I looked at demographics. All of the LGBTQ+ people together make up about 6% of the total population in the US.

    These numbers might have changed somewhat in the last year or two since I last check surveys, but it’s not likely that it’s changed enough to move the numbers sharply.

    I know that there was some investigative reporting in my state a few months ago trying to figure out how many minors would be affected by a state-level ban on insurance covering gender-affirming care for minors, and the number was in in the very low double digits. The same kind of numbers of athletes would be affected by bans on ‘biological males’ competing in womens’ sports.

    I’m just saying that it just doesn’t seem very likely that an instance with thousands of users would have that kind of demographics, esp. when you consider that Hexbear broadly has a monolithic political identity.

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      14 hours ago

      I mean I could believe it about an arbitrary thing over a general populace. I mean like a gay bar is likely to have like 90% gay people in it. And its not like the federation is huge and it tends to attract out groups.

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        11 hours ago

        A gay bar doesn’t have a (largely) monolithic political identity though. Sure, most gay people are going to trend more socially and fiscally liberal/left. But you’ll still find a number at any gay bar that are fairly socially and/or fiscally conservative. Log cabin Republicans, for instance. (Yeah, I think it’s dumb to kiss the asses of ppl that want to eliminate your rights, but whatever.)

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          11 hours ago

          I honestly have no idea why your shifting to political ideology. My point was when you take anything that is a closed type of system it will have its own identity so I could believe its makeup is whatever and no where near close to the global average is.

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            7 hours ago

            They’re pointing out that hexbear isn’t like a gay bar. Its not the sexual orientation that holds them together. It’s extremest political ideology (and probably significant support from the Kremlin)

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              7 hours ago

              yeah that was not really my point though. when something is not broad enough, like federation instances, then any particular anomaly is possible. It does not have to be specific sort of place. So lets say instead of a gay bar its just a corner bars but it so happens a fair amount of gay people decided to frequent it because others were or such.

      • taladar@sh.itjust.works
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        12 hours ago

        But it is not as if the instance advertises itself as a place specifically for trans people.

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      12 hours ago

      I’m just saying that it just doesn’t seem very likely that an instance with thousands of users would have that kind of demographics, esp. when you consider that Hexbear broadly has a monolithic political identity.

      Comrade just learned what an intersectional identity group is

      • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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        11 hours ago

        I think that you might misunderstand. Transgender people are already a very, very small minority. The number of people that are in favor of authoritarian communism is also quite low (certainly in the US, at least). Even if you assume that, say, 50% of all trans people are supportive of authoritarian communism, that’s still an incredibly tiny number.

        I can’t say that I know a ton of transgender people, but the ones that I’ve personally known have trended well into anarchism, because they recognize the risk of allowing anyone to control their body other than themselves.

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          11 hours ago

          Transgender people are already a very, very small minority. The number of people that are in favor of authoritarian communism is also quite low (certainly in the US, at least).

          Couple things:

          • They might each be small minorities of the overall population, but that doesn’t mean they don’t have a very large overlap with each other. Assuming that they don’t simply because you don’t personally know many who fit that intersection could just mean that you don’t frequent the same spaces they do - possibly because you don’t share one or either of those characteristics
          • I’ll let you do your own math and get back to me if your calculated percentages could possibly add up to 700 people (half of an estimated 1400 monthly active users) on the internet who identify as both trans and communist