What is “Rule 1”? Is it “Thou shall not have a different opinion.”?
thou shalt not say things that are censored in china….
Funnily enough it seems like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml are also censored in China via their great firewall.
Edit: lemmy.ml is still blocked, but lemmygrad apparently not.
because westerners can access it
Except lemmy.world is not (last time the topic came up, but I haven’t checked since).
that would be kinda hard to determine for sure
There are some websites that use a VPN inside China that let you check if your website is accessible there.
i wouldn’t trust that
Because the way the fediverse works means that it is practically a proxy into other less CCP-friendly instances which is a big nono
makes sense
i’ve heard that in china, they have a constantly evolving slang for everything banned
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Only in actual fact, though ashamedly never written down anywhere irl in a manner that is so clear and understandable.
Man, your post has really brought out the CCP shills. It’s fascinating to watch people go, “Nuh-uh! China doesn’t do any of that!”
yeah, seems like they’re really hoping to convert some lemmy users
I learned a dozen countries are all in on a conspiracy theory in which they pretended China had operated overseas police stations in their respective countries. Fake news!
These threads are great because they are nice tankie block attractors. They can’t help themselves from commenting on their non tank-3 accounts.
It’s hilarious. I have them all tagged and the same usual suspects always show up like clockwork.
Lol is there a list somewhere? Id love to just blanket ban all the morons
Just check any thread involving China, Russia or North Korea. Or any thread regarding .ml or .world. They’ll always show up.
What’s rule 1 on .ml? Everyone is getting banned for it.
Ableism is forbidden, so you get banned if you make fun of communists.
So they are accepting that they have a mental illness right?
Either that, or they consider it their religion and/or gender.
Hi, I am Amon. My pronouns are comrad/comrad
Our pronouns, probably.
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in my experience, they’re a lot worse….
stuff that would get a comment removed or a note from the mod to chill just gets you an instant permaban here…
and they’ll ban you for the dumbest shit too… simply discussing china’s human rights abuses that are well documented and publicized is “racism against chinese people” or some dumb shit….
luckily it’s just the hard hard leftists… the places that are all shills anyway (like he-x-b34r)
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Just block those instances. My weirdest and most disgusting experiences ever on Lemmy were on instances like that one.
Those who dissent, must get bent.
Lol, I got a similar removal and ban (rule 1, 2*) the other day for replying to someone who mentioned credit ratings as a counterpoint to the attempts to discredit the existence of “social credits” (or whatever actual system exists in China, and it does exist, to keep tabs on their population):
This right here.
And the point is that an average American barely knows how those work, or exactly what information the government and or private financial and other companies collect about them (it’s a lot) or how much it impacts their daily lives (deeply), in the same way the average Chinese person barely knows just how much surveillance their government is doing on them (it’s a lot) or how much it impacts their daily lives (deeply).
This post is such tankie bullshit.
Pretending like only one government does (internal and external) propaganda, or only one government is oppressing and lying to its own people (not to mention people in other countries), or that the average person in any country know, or is willing to admit to themselves, never mind others, and especially never mind people from a country you’ve been propagandised against from birth, the flaws of their own government is not only laughable, and hypocritical, but also massively counterproductive.
*as you can see, the ban is really for calling OP “tankie bullshit” and *gasp* pointing out that China is bad in the same ways America is bad. Such fragile egos lmfao
just the fact that .ml stands for marxist leninist is all you need to know….
marxism has some good points, some very bad ones… leninism doesn’t and is hardly a thing anywaysTankies gonna tank ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
cccp gonna cccp
Does anyone know what rule 4 is? I was banned from an ml community for that very rule a couple of days ago but have not made a comment anywhere on Lemmy for 9 months.
My current guess - I upvoted/downvoted the wrong person as that’s about all I do on Lemmy.
i forgot but you didn’t actually break that rule, probably….
something i’ve learned from talking to real life leftists is: all very left online spaces, and i mean all, have been completely fucked over by shills.
often just completely controlled by them.
i just got permabanned from lost generation on reddit for absolutely not breaking the rules… they cited a rule, i asked how, then they just muted me from messaging the mods with a message just listing the rules, all of which i agree with….
it sucks but it’s been this way a very long time….
basically just cointelpro continuing.
my guess is you were too genuine and reasonable, so they fuck with you to make you think this is what the left is like, then hopefully you’ll give up and become a capitalist.
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It’s not about the suicide nets as I understand the post…, but your answer would be fitting to the poster.
The removal of such talking points is strange, especially because similar points are not removed when critical of Western stuff…
That shouts propaganda
Edit: I just realized, that’s the Meme sub,… political discussions there (critical of the CCP, even when the meme itself is political, get banned)
I recently got a ban on .ml for saying that the IS banning people from flying because they called in a bomb threat on an plane is not the same as China banning you from flying because you critisised the government.
Yeah that’s true, because the the first one actually happens.
+10 social credit
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To whom you say that?
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Well, that apple and foxcon are allowed to harass people until they kill themself is an issue of the state they are doing it in. If China would care about its people it would not allow companies to treat them like they do.
OP is writing, that no hard questions were asked, like all the questions China wants the world to forget about.
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But China encourages those foreign companies (including german VW for example) to produce in China and encourage them to exploit Chinese workers. I see the problem at China not protecting their people but sell them off to big companies.
And that is what some call communism… 🤦🏻
ITT: liberals that cannot handle their own reality crashing down around them as they struggle with the choice between acknowledging their entire life has been a waste, or that the leftists were correct again, as history proves over and over
Or it’s not that deep and y’all are just fascists
YDI.
The .ml policy against bigotry --including parroting western anti-chinese propaganda, that liberals throw ad nauseam there-- has been a consistent policy over time of that instance.
seeing that you’re from lemmy.ml, stfu….
but, it’s not propaganda, it proven facts… there are photos and leaked surveillance videos, it’s very real.
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Citation needed.
Edit: also, no they didn’t. Read the very first paragraph from their own 2023 report:
https://www.state.gov/reports/2023-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/china/
Please at least keep up to date with your propaganda.
You said it, not me.
I strongly disagree.
But, by example, if l (a .ml and lemmyngrad user) go to a Ukrainian instance with a pro-western narrative to tell that they are backing and are backed by fascism, as other hundreds others had done before, I would deserve a ban.
false equivalence
You mean the US? The US isn’t fascist. We’ve still got about 48 hours before that.
I mean, during the past 4 years, you guys have been building a giant wall to keep brown people out, funded a genocide to maintain a white ethno state in the middle east, enacted economical sanctions to try to suffocate socialist movements around the world, overturned a law that granted access to abortions… I could continue, but I think that’s enough to consider the USA fascist already.
I don’t get how suicide nets is a knock on china. They’re making our phones.
It’s our consumer demand and our company’s price points that are responsible for the conditions in the factories that make our phones.
because the Chinese public isn’t supposed to know about it… plus people might demand more ethically produced phones if they were more aware.
It’s their citizens / labor laws.
Sure an American said “we want 12h shifts 6 days a week with absolutely minimal breaks” (or whatever the specifics are) (and that’s a a terrible request.)
But the kicker is a Chinese labor official said “yup, sure thing”
China decided to play ball with the slave economy because it makes scads of money. If they were interested in pushing fucking state communism and raising the quality of living perhaps this was the wrong move. I suppose the counterargument would be that letting the west export its manufacturing sector somewhere else would have been a missed opportunity, but perhaps (and I say this as an American) the better move ideologically would have been not to engage with manufactory colonialism for a quick buck. Now we have Foxcon. They might have aligned with communist or at least sympathetic governments around the world for the project of I dunno stonewalling western oligarchs and not participating in the capitalist economic system. Insane, radical, anti-Party thought I know, I’m sorry. Just thinking out loud here.
