• bruhssa@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    I mean yeah, makes sense. Russia is a direct threat to us all. Fuck the US if they think their egg prices are more important than European security and not having dictators have their ways.

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    12 hours ago

    American here and I agree. Our government is a disaster right now so it’s better to focus on something actionable, like defeating Putin.

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      1 hour ago

      your government are all nazis. and half of your population are fascists. we (ukraine and eu) can’t trust you, and hopefully we will learn from it this time.

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        12 hours ago

        Idk why you think me of all people is gonna help you lol. I’m not trading places. No take backsies! Find a Farage supporter and ask them!

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        12 hours ago

        Happy to send you branstons pickle or Cadbury or something to ease your anxiety, though.

  • SabinStargem@lemmings.world
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    I think the UK can use this as an opportunity to improve relations with the EU, or to at least get a trade partner in Ukraine and to take a chunk of Russian assets. You get to be a good guy, and get rich by confiscating Putin’s coffers.

    Seriously, send in troops, and maybe the navy if Turkey permits. Do what American’t.

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      3 hours ago

      Ask Turkey if they want to join in again for some Crimean War II? We killed a bunch of Russians before, why not again.

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      12 hours ago

      Half of our military bases are occupied by the Americans and we need your permission to do anything.

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    The simple reality is that it is not possible to maintain good relations with the US. Donald Trump is an idiot and a fascist whose agenda is driven by his whims as much as anything else. Starmer could bend over backwards to appease His Orange Majesty on every issue and Trump would still fuck the UK just because.

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    1 day ago

    I can’t believe we’re betrayingUkraine for no reason.

    Oh wait… Actually I can believe it, i knew it was going to happen, and I voted against it.

  • Th4tGuyII@fedia.io
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    I wouldn’t say it’s just more important, I’d say it’s a moral imperative to support Ukraine’s fight for it’s sovereign land over keeping buddy-buddy with a government running rampant with corruption and Russian puppetry

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      1 day ago

      Not to mention that once Russia is done with Ukraine they’re not going to stop. Defending Ukraine is defending Europe.

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          So education will be reformed and we’ll be force to learn Russian and vote for one party/president only?

          Uh, can anybody stop currents news from auto generating bullshit on a daily basis?

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    1 day ago

    As a Canadian you can’t trust anything coming out of the Musk /Trump White House. Us in Canada no longer consider them friends.

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      They’re threatening daily to take Canada by whatever means necessary. That’s not an ally, that’s a threat. Canada needs to protect itself, and the British people are quite right to back Ukraine. Trump is working with Putin to hand Ukraine to Russia. Russia will not stop its ambitions there and it is a threat to all of Europe.

      Yesterday Trump threatened to pull US troops out of Europe if the EU did not agree to his and Putin’s plan for Ukraine. It’s a very clear threat: give Ukraine to Russia or we give you to Russia. Of course the USA in its current state would not defend Europe anyway. To me it looks like the plan is for Trump to seize Canada, Greenland, Panama, etc., while Putin grabs as much of Europe as he can.

      Under these conditions what is NATO? Trump is deliberately destroying it.

      So the UK, Canada and Europe need to stand firm against the alliance of the USA, Russia and those European countries that have gone over to fascism. The very existence of our countries is at stake.

      And watch out for the far right at home. Their loyalties do not lie with their country.

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        Under these conditions what is NATO?

        Already-preexisting integration of most EU armies (and the rest aren’t completely out of the loop) as well as Canada Turkey, Norway, and Iceland.

        The long and short of it is if the US should bail out of NATO what is left is an absolute behemoth of a force with severe shortcomings in power projection and strategic airlift capacity. The latter only until Ukraine is admitted they have Antonov. Not sure whether we want much power projection but the lift capacity is a shortfall.

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    Uk citizens voted to leave the European Union and probably couldn’t find Ukraine on a map.

    There is no point, literally no point asking them such questions, unless ….oh yah, the government is manufacturing consent for more money Ukraine, while telling its citizens there is no money for schools.