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    Evangelicals Are Now Rejecting ‘Liberal’ Teachings of Jesus

    “Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching’turn the other cheek’[and] to have someone come up after to say, ‘Where did you get those liberal talking points?’” Moore said.

    “When the pastor would say, ‘I’m literally quoting Jesus Christ’ … The response would be, 'Yes, but that doesn’t work anymore. That’s weak,” he added. “When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.”

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      Prosperity gospel has been shitting on the red text of Christ for decades now.

      Jesus hated wealth inequality. The only group he said would never enter heaven were the wealthy (“easier to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven”, in other words, it isn’t possible for the rich to enter heaven). Jesus also violently flipped tables and whipped the wealthy to drive them out of temples.

      So conservative “Christians” abandoned the teachings of Christ many decades ago.

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        easier to pass through the eye of a needle

        Easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle…

        Some bootlickers go through ridiculous contortions to avoid the plain sense of this analogy: “The Eye of the Needle was a gate in Jerusalem!” (That excuse was a late medieval fabrication by an indulgence-selling cleric craving donations from aristocrats-- there’s no such gate and never was, and if there was one, the saying would make no sense).

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        Jesus didn’t talk about wealth inequality in that way, as far as wealth being bad. His point was that the wealthy tend to think they have it all and are in need of nothing. Mostly that the richer you are, the more you love money than God.

        He wasn’t just flipping tables and whipping wealthy people. They were at the temple making money off of selling animals to sacrifice for sins. They had made a business of selling indulgences basically, that was the issue.

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          Jesus didn’t talk about wealth inequality in that way, as far as wealth being bad.

          He flat-out said, if you’re rich in this life, you’ve had your reward already and you won’t get into heaven.

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      I guess we’re going to get more denominational splits based on if Jesus’ teachings about loving others is Biblically accurate. Yet another reason why he isn’t coming back.

      The real reason.

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    This isn’t really new though, it’s just saying the quite part out loud. always-has-been.gif.

    Neoliberalism is the cause of the decay and paved the way for fascism. If you let large conglomerates own everything including news media and social media and then sell access to spew vile hate speech and disinformation to people, the current result is to be expected. It’s actually kind of refreshing that they actually come out and say it.

    These people also don’t believe in equality, they believe inequality of humans is fundamentally morally correct. Neoliberals believe in inequality based on class/wealth, fascists believe in inequality based on identity like race or gender.

    The true sin is ignorance and neglect.

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      “I hate you guys, kill yourself” said Jesus probably during daylight saving time because he didn’t sleep enough.

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        I’ve heard the distinction described as “it’s a cult when the founder is still around making stuff up, it becomes a religion after he dies and his followers are left to continue doing that in his name.”

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          I have as much authority as the Pope. I just don’t have as many people who believe it.

          George Carlin

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        …she’s an episcopalian bishop who led trump’s inaugural service, asking that he accept god’s humility and share his mercy with marginalised people who fear him, specifically naming genderqueer, immigrant, and refugee populations…

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    My sister once told my mom that empathy is what’s ruining this country. It’s not even like it was a misinterpretation/misunderstanding, that’s almost word for word how she said it. I can’t fathom how someone comes to that line of thinking.

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      To me it feels like social darwinism mentality - the belief that helping the weak survive weakens the herd. AKA “hard choices”.

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        The problem is that’s actually the opposite of how that works. If you refuse to care for the weak in your community, you foster this atmosphere of sociopathy and mistrust that causes the group to destroy itself.

        Why the hell do you think there are only two Sith in Star Wars?

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          He literally said this two weeks ago. " The death of the West is due to too much empathy." Paraphrased, of course.

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    Cowards fear empathy and maim their own capacity for it, because experiencing the pain of others hurts. Being surrounded by extreme, intolerable pain is the most difficult part of being vegan.

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    Proverbs 14:31 Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.

    Deuteronomy 15:7 If anyone is poor among your fellow Israelites in any of the towns of the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward them.

    Luke 14:13-14 But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed. Although they cannot repay you, you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.

    Luke 12:15: Then he said, “Beware! Guard against every kind of greed. Life is not measured by how much you own.”

    1 John 4:20 If anyone says, “I love God,” yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.

    1 John 3:17 But if anyone has the world’s goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God’s love abide in him?

    John 13:34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

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    I find it more than a little humorous that their defining attribute for the last hundred years is so easily abandoned

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    Remind me which level of Hell the hypocrites are in? Is it higher or lower than the one reserved for Jesus now?

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    With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.

    Daniel 11:32

    He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior… He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them.

    Daniel 8:25, 2 Thess 2:10

    … a despicable person will arise… a man of contempt… to whom the royal honor has not been rightfully conferred. He will slip in when least expected and will seize the kingdom through flattery and intrigue.

    Daniel 11:21

    After an alliance is made with him he will practice deception, and he will go up and gain power with a small force of people.

    Daniel 11:23

    He will try to change the set times and the laws.

    Dan. 7:25

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    Cmiiw but isn’t the irony in the right also deeming Trump too dumb to be a threat to democracy? The thought of an articulate Trump that doesn’t make these sloppy mistakes paired with a steroids version of the dizzying policy reform this admin shells out…. 🏳️