"Along with the very real and violent war on the ground – there is also a fierce information war. Like Tuesday’s explosion at the Gaza hospital which Hamas says killed hundreds of people.
Israel says it was a misfired Islamic Jihad rocket, which they deny. Hamas says it was an Israeli airstrike, which they deny.
But tonight Forensic Architecture, Earshot and the Ramallah based NGO Al Haq have shared new information with Channel 4 News they say casts doubt on some aspects of Israel’s account."
The evidence is presented in the video
Deliberately targeting civilians is always bullshit.
I agree, but you seemed to say there, that the practice of “knocking” before the actual strike is bullshit, which I found surprising and was asking clarification for.
The knocking the IDF does is done using low yeild or dummy munitions not kindly notifying people. It’s a flimsy justification for bombing civilians.
Would it be better if they did what Hamas does instead and just strike without a warning?
I find it odd that you think warning before hand so that people can evacuate is bullshit. They didn’t need to do that, but they still go thru the effort to minimize civilian casualties.
Because hitting something with a small munition isn’t a warning. It’s just bombing civilians. Just because it’s a small vldevice doesn’t make it good or civilised, it’s just bombing civilians.
You don’t seem very keen on answering the question.
Would it be better if they didn’t knock, and instead just did what Hamas does, and bomb the civilians without a warning?
I think we’ve established here, that not dropping bombs onto civilian population in the first place would be optimal, but since both sides are going to do it anyways and aren’t going to stop, then which way is likely to lead to less collateral damage; giving a warning before hand or not warning at all? What do you think it tells about Israel that they’re willing to knock first? Do you think Hamas would do that if they had the capability?
My answer to the question is that knocking isn’t a warning. It’s just bombing civilians. They can claim that using smaller bombs is somehow nicer but at the end of the day they’re still bombing people and then they’re kind enough to follow that up with bigger bombs. I don’t have to be pragmatic and accept that there’s going to be some bombing of civilians or indeed any bombing or attacks on anyone from any side in any conflict. You don’t have to tolerate the actions of bastards doing bastard things.
Why are you criticizing Israel for the one half decent thing they’re doing which is letting people know before hand that this building is going to get bombed so you better get the hell out? That’s such an odd thing to critizice them for.
How do you feel about Hamas attacking that music festival and murdering 250 civilians? I’m sure those people would’ve liked a warning too, don’t you think?
Again: roof knocking is not a warning it is just bombing civilians. Just because you hit them first with a small bomb doesn’t grant you an moral high ground or count as a warning, you’re just bombing civilians. The only right thing to do is to not bomb civilians with anything at all.
It is simply engaging in the exact same terrorism that hamas participates in but they’re trying to frame their terrorism as better somehow.