• JasSmith@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    I wish wagons were more popular. They’re great for fitting all the stuff in for the family, but lighter and much better handling. I don’t know why SUVs became the thing, but I wish wagons would be a come-back. A Tesla wagon would be awesome.

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      11 months ago

      If you’re curious, it is because wagons are classified as passenger vehicles and SUVs are classified as light trucks. Wagons are held to higher emissions/safety standards than SUVs, making them less profitable to produce in the US. So most automakers steer clear. They don’t want to accidentally compete with their own most profitable products by selling a less profitable one that better-matches what consumers need.

      Also fuck Tesla.

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      Wagons and minivans - which are great substitutes for SUVs - have a negative stigma because everybody’s parents had one and people don’t want to feel old.

      Hopefully the same thing will happen to SUVs.

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      11 months ago

      Not quite a wagon but I love my Honda Fit, it sips gas, handles surprisingly well for a car in its price range and it’s amazing how much stuff you can Fit into the little guy

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        11 months ago

        My old Mazda protege was basically that with a foot longer trunk. It was perfect size.

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      11 months ago

      I’m just glad they’re bringing back small trucks. I don’t want a small-penismobile, I want a vehicle I can throw some lumber and such in on occasion.

      Which is why I love my Hyundai Santa Cruz. Sucker can tow 3500lb but can get 35mpg highway

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      11 months ago

      Aw man I miss my Volvo wagon. I should have never sold it. I would love to get another used one but I would have to pay triple what I sold it for to get it back these days, prices are just insane since they stopped making anything decent years ago.

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        11 months ago

        Buying a car nowadays is a freaking nightmare, I hope mine lasts many more years

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      Took me years to realize but “Crossover SUVs” are basically just Hatchbacks with slightly higher suspensions. Hell, manufacturers like Subaru literally use the same chassis as their sedans.

      Which is slightly different than a station wagon but is close enough for the vast majority of people since the main distinction is more vertical storage capacity because of rounded edges (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Station_wagon#Comparison_with_hatchbacks). Which… definitely was an issue when I had to make multiple dump runs but never comes up in “real life” as it were.

      Like, I hate that I drive a “SUV”. But when I was doing more or less everything I could to NOT buy one I eventually realized “A hatchback Impreza with a lift kit sounds perfect” was literally at the same dealership.


      As for SUVs in general: a lot of it is people thinking they need a giant vehicle to carry their one child around town.

      But the other aspect is… driving in a sedan sucks these days. You are surrounded by pickup trucks where the wheel axis is already at eye level. You have no visibility in traffic and are pretty regularly afraid of what happens if someone doesn’t stop.

      Like I said, I drive a hatchback/crossover now. And that generally puts me at bumper height on a lot of trucks which… still means my visibility is shit but means I am less likely to get monster trucks driving on top of me.