As if the worst foe of the Islamic state right now is the Russian Federation … very suspicious especially when many embassies warned their citizens to leave Russia just a week ago because they had Intel about major terror attacks coming to Russia.
The Islamic State has plenty of reasons to hate Russia, such as their continued cooperation with the Assad government and Iran, the Chechen Wars, their military campaigns in Afghanistan… just to name a few. You don’t need to be “the worst foe” to be targeted by ISIS, as many of their attacks have shown.
When it comes to foes Israel, US, France, UK, Germany, Netherlands; KSA, UAE should top the list.
unless someone else is pulling the strings and using them to advance their geopolitical agendas. terror attacks abroad have almost no impact on rallying support in the regions they want control over.
It would be ISIS’s wet fucking dream for Russia to honestly believe the west was directly or indirectly responsible for this.
For your conspiracy theory to be plausible you need to suspend the expectation that ISIS would operate in their own best interests. Usually a bad bet.
Are people on Lemmy going to treat these freedom fighters the same way they treat Hamas?
Warning, graphic videos
I kinda struggle to show empathy for this, after the last couple years of them doing & supporting this kind of shit in Ukraine.
If you can’t show empathy for murdered civilians just because of their nationality, are you really any better? This was a concert hall, not a military base. Think about what you are tacitly endorsing here…
Are you expecting me to tolerate the intolerant? No thanks. They don’t have any empathy towards Ukrainian civilians either. They rather encourage what is happening, be it torture, rape or murder and have imperialistic ambitions that stretch far beyond Ukraine, wanting to do the same to my country and others. So why should I care? If two scumbag factions murder each other then that’s a win win situation.
Just to clarify, you hold ethnic hatred towards all Russian people?
Russia holds almost 200 different ethnic groups (potentially less since they ethnic cleanse their own populations in the Ukrainian meat grinder), so no. I hold hatred towards a terrorist state.
That’s a lot of words to say “yes”.
Tankies once again proving they live in an alternative reality where they can just spin everything to whatever suits their confirmation bias.
Remember, no Russian.
@Wilshire @BaroqueInMind You you are a perfect example of how easy it is to program people with video games and movies lol
I didn’t commit those crimes to the innocent people in those videos, you dipshit.
Jesus Christ you realize these are unarmed human beings being slaughtered right?
And of course uncle Putin is saying it was Ukraine.
US security services have notified Russia of an impending attack, they notified US citizens there to about large gatherings
Gunmen went in calmly, shot at people for 1.5 hours without being stopped, then calmly walked back into a car and drove off.
IS claimed responsibility immediately
All of this clearly shows it was the Ukraine!
China and Russia just blocked a truce in Gaza. Makes sense.
Makes sense. ISIS, who claimed responsibility for the attack, famously hates when Russia blocks a truce in Gaza.
So in essence:
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US warns Russia for planned terror attack in Moscow
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Russian government and Putin specific either ignore it for the reason the west is fooling them because would fit narrative for the war in Ukraine. Or
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Russian government is just incompetent to do anything with that information. Or they know and deliberately don’t do anything with it to link it to Ukraine (even though the perpetrators are IS). Since this was also done in 1999 to blame the Chechnyans, it would fit the profile.
Either way it will be Soviet style lying. The incompetence will be wiped under the rug. The deliberate holding back information and not adequate precautions will not be easily to be proven, yet it creates the narrative for the mobilisation. Fear is Russia’s weapon of mass destruction, the lies are the instruments to fire those weapons.
“Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is paid.”
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Do we know when and where putin is? Maybe do that with him?
have they tried to blame this on Woke yet?
Of course not, they’re already blaming Ukraine.
US security services have notified Russia of an impending attack, they notified US citizens there to about large gatherings
Gunmen went in calmly, shot at people for 1.5 hours without being stopped, then calmly walked back into a car and drove off.
IS claimed responsibility immediately
All of this clearly shows it was the Ukraine!
It’s worth recalling when support for the Chechen war was low, Putin initiated a campaign of apartment building bombings in 1999. Some chatter that there were around 8 shooters, and they walked into the hall and immediately shot 40-50, result might end up with over 100 killed.
You are wrong on a lot of counts here buddy. May want to take a Valium and leave the geopolitics alone.
Such as? Did putin not bomb his own people in the 90s? Did America not warn about this next attack before it happened?
I did that on the fly and didn’t make a comment a day after. What counts am I wrong on? Most everything has proven to be true. Thanks for the drug recommendation, are you a doctor?
The entire city of Moscow is now on lockdown.
Only public places.
An excerpt from the article:
In October 2002, Chechen militants took about 800 people hostage at a Moscow theater. Two days later, Russian special forces stormed the building and 129 hostages and 41 Chechen fighters died, most of them from effects of narcotic gas Russian forces use to subdue the attackers.
Those are two separate events…
The false flag apartment bombings were carried out by actual Russian security services - not Chechen assetts, or militants.
On a related note, some of Russian agents who took part were comically stupid. If you aren’t aware of the Sims vs SIM card mix-up, do yourself a favor and look it up.
The Sims comedy hour was a separate event from the other two, it was a 2022 attempt to frame Ukraine for terrorism.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Russian news reports said that the assailants also used explosives, causing a massive blaze at the Crocus City Hall on the western edge of Moscow.
Video posted on social media showed huge plumes of black smoke rising over the building.
Russia’s state RIA Novosti news agency reported that at least three people in combat fatigues fired weapons.
Extended rounds of gunfire could be heard on multiple videos posted by Russian media and Telegram channels.
Another one showed a man inside the auditorium, saying the assailants set it on fire, with incessant gunshots ringing out in the background.
Andrei Vorobyov, the governor of the Moscow region, said he was heading to the area and set up a task force to deal with the damage.
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