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Oh, but she’s Israeli, so this is just lies, right guys? Right?
No we just don’t really give a shit because yeah, no shit a terrorist insurgency mistreated their hostages. It changes absolutely nothing. Really sucks for her, sorry it happened, hope she gets help, fuck Israel.
Hell yes this is exactly the kind of cyclical no thought violent logic we need to keep that conflict going for another hundred years!!
Oh, no you misunderstand, plenty of thought in what I said.
Israel created Hamas without a care in the world, ground Palestine to their knees, kicked them while they were down, and the moment they collected enough spit to put it in Israel’s face by making rockets out of the crumbling pipes they can’t get materials to fix, Israel went mask off. Started nothing short of a genocide with virtually no opposition. So while Hamas treating their hostages poorly is sad, it’s also expected. Want to know what caught even me off guard? Israel has killed more Israeli hostages than Hamas has.
Absolutely go fuck yourself with a soldering iron then pass the message to Israel.
Israel has killed more Israeli hostages than Hamas has.
How do you know this?
What caught me off guard was that Hamas attacked military targets (not exclusively though) and the total amount of children killed on Oct 7 (including Israeli friendly fire) was 36. Israel has destroyed 70% of Gaza’s residential areas and killed over 13,000 children. 13,000 children! It seems the label “terrorist” was applied to the wrong side, especially when you consider the current situation in Rafah. Over a million people, starving, traumatized, not knowing when the next attack is coming and completely unable to defend themselves or even find a safe place. It’s unconscionable.
How do you know [Israel has killed more of their own hostages than Hamas]?
Reports like this, of which I’m sure there’d be more if the IDF didn’t kill the reporters.
Hamas are definitely closer to insurgents but are definitely still terrorists. Yes, pushed there by justifiable reasons, but we shouldn’t become disillusioned. They’re not good guys, but they are still the result of inhumane and brutal treatment.
It’s only cyclical if you think the pro Palestinian voice here supports Hamas too.
Isreal is committing genocide against the Palestinian people, for the also despicable actions of the terrorist group in charge.
And while the Palestinian people may be partially responsible for Hamas being in charge, it’s far more complicated than that, as foreign powers including Isreal itself had a large part of putting Hamas in power and keeping them there. And Isreal is definitely responsible for a lifetime of oppression that breeds support for extremism.
Good call. I hate dumb strawman arguments. Can’t win this argument so let’s build one I can!
That’s horrible, it shouldn’t happen to anyone. We need more awareness and more trauma therapy, especially for children. Fortunately Israeli victims at least have a platform to be heard and sufficient resources available for treatment, but Palestinians do not. I’m not sure if there’s even a single fully functioning hospital left in Gaza, even after Israel turns back on the electricity, water, and gas. If they ever do.
James Gordon, a US psychiatrist … said recovery was possible even in severely traumatised children, but only if the outside world did not give up on them.
