• rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
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    It seems clear they don’t want us using their site with videos.

    I think publishing video files on the Web is not some unique know-how.

    By the way, neither is search, neither are ratings.

    And “being in the same space” with the rest of the world is an illusion due to the way recommendations work there. I mean, it’s sufficient to look at the views counter under a video and combine it with some other numbers to realize this.

    Freedom is so close. It’s not in defeating the network effect, it’s in realizing that it’s fucking useless in anything but scaring us away from leaving trap spaces.

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      3 months ago

      Seems like something like Gray Jay is a very easy way to transition off of these sources, too. Just have a source agnostic player.

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        From what I see it still means using YouTube for people transitioning from it, just via its API or scraping or something.

        I meant that there’s no need to be afraid of losing YT.

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      3 months ago

      You say this- many people do but no one has made an alternative? So no it isn’t easy to make a video streaming site. Everyone just say “it’s too popular” that it has the entire audience but no, there just isn’t any good alternative anywhere. People don’t get how fast everyone would switch and how little anyone would look back if there was just any good alternative. Make one! Stop saying it’s easy and make one! You figure out how to stream consistently and have these response times and these peripheral functions if it’s so easy! It’s not easy. They obviously have a superior product and is now enshittening it so they can milk money from it

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        but no one has made an alternative? So no it isn’t easy to make a video streaming site.

        This and all your further smartassery would be funny if the Web weren’t full of alternatives which technically work just as good or just as bad, just don’t have the network effect.

        Make one! Stop saying it’s easy and make one! You figure out how to stream consistently and have these response times and these peripheral functions if it’s so easy!

        I don’t think somebody saying that something is not needed should provide an implementation to support their words.

        Also I think something like Lemmy + BitTorrent support in browsers would solve the problem. It’s actually funny that you still can’t just use HTML5 video tag with a magnet link.

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          No they all suck

          Like a whole fucking lot

          And yes a torrent protocol for streaming media is a great idea but how. How do you seed so fast during watch, how does this not suck so much more than having local servers have your most likely to watch videos cached and ready like they do? It’s a very hard problem to make a product that can offer what they offer. And they abuse that fact

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    Not sure if it’s related, but my youtube revanced installation was also not working. I had to repatch again using the most recent patch.

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      Same, except it hasn’t worked since. I’ll get like 30 seconds in and it’ll buffer indefinitely

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        I force closed the app from settings and then that went away. I didn’t mess with anything else.

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    Unless Google implements a severe restriction on access to the YouTube API or imposes the requirement to be logged in to a verified Google account, every solution will not be 100%

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    They broke everything even revanced, had to scour for a new patch since only newpipe still worked but I can’t access the watch later playlist on it.

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        Spoofing app version stopped working. Luckily if you simply patched a newer version it still works correctly.

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      The moment I notived revanced has stopped working for me a new version was already available that worked. I guess ot might’ve been a staged rollout?

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    They’ve been doing it for a while. Since June of last year or something. They have ipv6 rotation tools to get around it now. But youtube is basically ip banning instances.

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      This post has been active longer then it took to deploy a fix, which was out before this article came out.

      Get fucked youtube

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    When i noticed i checked the github to see there was an active bug report.

    24 hours later they where talking about a fix that was on its way.

    I updated this morning and all is well.

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      Okay but imagine if you didn’t have all this wasted oppositional bullshit, and we just built open architectures.

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    This sort of cat and mouse style thing is completely expected, almost designed for period it’s no big deal when it happens. It’s only a big deal when it’s still going on many days later

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    Remember when you didn’t have to red queen your hacker shit to watch funny videos?

    God I feel old. I’m so sick of this shit.

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    I kinda stop using these services after a while. I want the recommendation algorithm.

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      Same. I have new pipe on my phone but end up using the official app with premium more often.

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      It’s fine tbh, but YouTube is really running out of great contents these days, and you have to constantly check the sources before being gaslighted. I would rather take my pace and search up things when I wanted.

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        Some people use downvotes to signalize a different opinion, which is kind of toxic. We want different opinions here. What we don’t want is hate, extremism, fake news, … That’s what deserves the downvotes.

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          People getting downvoted just for having a different opinion really annoys me. Same with seeing obvious trolls getting upvoted. It’s not ideal, but lemmy has an option to hide scores, and it makes browsing lemmy more pleasant to me.

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      Seconded, the recommendations can help you discover new things, that you didn’t even know existed… that said, I can’t stand having someone stalk and monetize your every move.

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        I quite like it precisely because it provided no recommendations. I’m not enticed to waste time watching something I wasn’t interested in 3 seconds ago. If I want to watch something I have to look it up and that’s usually the end of it.