• Onno (VK6FLAB)@lemmy.radio
    88·
    7 months ago

    It’s mind bending that there are actual humans on the planet, paid a shit tonne more than software developers, who not only believe the parody highlighted by @SwiftOnSecutity, but treat and share it as gospel, acting on it with nutjob metrics to “increase productivity” whilst salivating over the hyperbole around “AI” that is sweeping the globe, dreaming of a better world.

    One without those pesky developers with their brains, thoughts and opinions.

    But, what do I know, I’ve been in this profession for only 40 years…

    • fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
      4·
      7 months ago

      I always saw architects roles in modern development being the person trying to find synergies between different teams andcoordinateing them working with each other.

      Like if some team makes a sick project for managing streams of data streams the architect should be promoting it for other teams to leverage.

      • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        7 months ago

        That’s one role, as a software architect I also often served as the sunk cost fallacy bad news delivery system. It’s a good idea to keep some eyes from outside your team on your project just to do the occasional sensibility check.

        There is also a large responsibility to make sure different teams are well coordinated and not building the system in directly opposing directions. It really fucking sucks to have your work, as a developer, invalidated by someone else’s work suddenly without any warning.

    • rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de
      41·
      7 months ago

      A good software engineer is also an architect. You don’t need dedicated architects if you have good developers.

      But on the other hand there are much more questionable and unnecessary jobs like product managers or managers of managers.

      • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        7 months ago

        I disagree with not needing dedicated architects at least once you reach a certain size. If there are 50 plus developers working on a dozen or more projects there’s a large communication cost to stay on top of everything.

    • Aceticon@lemmy.world
      1·
      7 months ago

      The good ones: design and adjust software development processes, standards for cross-project functionality and reusability and in general try and improve at a high level the process of making, maintaining and improving software in a company.

      The bad ones: junior/mid-level software design with a thick layer of bullshit on top to spin it as advanced stuff.

      If you want to see bad software architecture, just look at most of Google’s frameworks and libraries.

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    371·
    7 months ago

    im convinced most developers spend more time working on making shit work, rather than actually writing code and bugfixing it.

    edit: this was mostly a shitpost, and i was expecting some flack, but i got basically none. Can we have a real moment here. Are you guys doing ok? Who made you do this to yourselves?

    ok, real talk over, we’re going back to suffering now.

    • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      13·
      7 months ago

      Half the time it’s trying to figure out where to apply the next piece of duct tape to keep the entire house of cards (and duct tape) from collapsing.

    • Buttons@programming.devEnglish
      91·
      7 months ago

      In times past they got shit done, and now we see that what they’ve done is shit and we’re stuck maintaining it.

    • szczuroarturo@programming.dev
      7·
      7 months ago

      Yup. Thats just enterprise software for you. Something was made requiremnts changed, and then changed again and then ypu have duct tape on top of a duct tape with a duct tape holding those duct tapes and a touch of super glu here and there. Also ducttapes are microscopic in size but the sheer quantity of them is unimaginable.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1·
        7 months ago

        this part is pretty much expected i think. But i’m starting to see it cropping up into the more meta aspects of programming now. For instance, apps being shipped with existing deprecated packages. Seems like it’s also creeping a little further into the more UI aspects of it as well.

  • fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
    27·
    7 months ago

    This the dangerous kind of parody, I would rather help people with excel programs than another access program and that’s a pain in the ass.

  • NaoPb@eviltoast.orgEnglish
    27·
    7 months ago

    Turns out the people in IT don’t actually make the computers either. Who’d have thought?

  • s12@sopuli.xyz
    18·
    7 months ago

    The IT people! The DEV team’s worst nemesis! They must be stopped before we are destroyed!

  • ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
    16·
    7 months ago

    The scary thing is some people actually believe this, and NIH syndrome is unfortunately all too real lol

  • Onno (VK6FLAB)@lemmy.radio
    16·
    7 months ago

    As an aside, I recall the early days when @SwiftOnSecurity was purposely ambiguous about the distinction between the artist Taylor Swift and their technology tweets. It was delicious to see confused responses.

    At some point it changed. Not sure what triggered that. I have a vague memory of a stroke, but I might be misremembering.

    • MinekPo1@lemmy.ml
      18·
      7 months ago

      No its microsofts database GUI program that’s part of Microsoft Office . imagine software made for users who have a vague understanding of SQL and visual basic but then an exec. forced the designers and devs to make it accessible to everyone while giving them barely any teamembers causing a fuckton of technical debt and unintuitive quirks , making anyone who opens the software feel like they have just been placed in a highly equipped tank , in front of a wall of unlabeled levers and told to drive the tank , or at least that’s how I view it.

      (reposting from another account sorry if you see both comments)

    • fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
      11·
      7 months ago

      No its another program, I’ve seen people make weird stuff with it like ticketing systems and notes apps. I’ve never seen it be a robust program though

    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
      52·
      7 months ago

      It’s the actual database app by Microsoft

      I assume it hasn’t existed for a number of years

    • urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      2·
      7 months ago

      We use it at work for it’s actual intended purpose: as a small database that isn’t customer facing. It’s used and maintained by nontechnical staff to keep data about equipment (slot machines).

      It would be too much info for excel, but it’s not enough to really need anything more.

  • jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world
    51·
    7 months ago

    hahaha, this reminds me of certain politicians…

    Where they say the quiet part out loud, while most people will ignore it and the status quo continues as is.

    We don’t want the Silicon Valley bubble to imploding, right?

    p.s. would burst be a better word than imploding? word of the day…