• TypicalHog@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    It only matters if the autopilot does more kills than an average human driver on the same distance traveled.

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      5 months ago

      No it doesn’t. Every life stolen matters and if it could be found that if tesla could have replicated industry best practice and saved more lives so that they could sell more cars then that is on them

    • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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      5 months ago

      This is 100% correct. Look at the average rate of crashes per mile driven with autopilot versus a human. If the autopilot number is lower, they’re doing it right and should be rewarded and NHTSA should leave them be. If the autopilot number is higher, then yes by all means bring in the regulation or whatever.

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        5 months ago

        Humans are extremely flawed beings and if your standard for leaving companies alone to make as much money as possible is that they are at least minimally better than extremely flawed, I don’t want to live in the same world as you want to live in.

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          5 months ago

          Having anything that can save lives over an alternative is an improvement. In general. Yes, we should be pushing for safer self driving, and regulating that. But if we can start saving lives now, then sooner is better than later.

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      5 months ago

      This is the actual logical way to think about self driving cars. Stop down voting him because “Tesla bad” you fuckin goons.

      • gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org
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        5 months ago

        Tesla’s self driving appears to be less safe and causes more accidents than their competitors.

        “NHTSA’s Office of Defects Investigation said in documents released Friday that it completed “an extensive body of work” which turned up evidence that “Tesla’s weak driver engagement system was not appropriate for Autopilot’s permissive operating capabilities.”

        Tesla bad.

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          5 months ago

          I don’t quite understand what they mean by this. It tracks drivers with a camera and the steering wheel sensor and literally turns itself off if you stop paying attention. What more can they do?

        • TypicalHog@lemm.ee
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          5 months ago

          Can you link me the data that says Tesla’s competitors self-driving is more safe and causes less accidents and WHICH ONES? I would really like to know who else has this level of self-driving while also having less accidents.

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          5 months ago

          I SAID: “IT ONLY MATTERS IF AUTOPILOT CAUSES MORE NET DEATHS PER MILE TRAVELED RATHER THAN LESS, WHEN COMPARED TO HUMAN DRIVERS!”

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          My argument is that self driving car fatalities have to be compared against human driven car fatalities. If the self driving cars kill 500 people a year, but humans kill 1000 people a year, which one is better. Logic clearly isn’t your strong suit, maybe sit this one out…

      • doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml
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        5 months ago

        It’s not logical, it’s ideological. It’s the ideology that allows corporations to run a dangerous experiment on the public without their consent.

        And where’s the LIDAR again?