Observe Israel definitely not being an Apartheid state.

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    Can someone clarify for me

    • when/where was this taken

    • who are the people in “uniform” and how do you know

    • what organization published this, i don’t recognize them

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        From Wikipedia (Regarding Quds news network).

        In short - the site is soo biased and unfavorable they have been banned by X, tiktok and Meta. They have a reputation for being used to fund militant group.

        “The Jewish News Syndicate reported in 2023 that the Australian Jewish Association had criticized the site as “a notorious anti-Israel antisemitic propaganda platform affiliated with Hamas.”[9] Twitter subsequently suspended QNN’s accounts in November 2019 as part of broader actions against accounts linked to militant groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah.[10][11][12] In January 2021, TikTok banned QNN, stating that it was a move related to the account’s content.[4] Meta suspended QNN’s English and Arabic pages after the 2023 Hamas attack on Israel.”

        (AP via wiki)

        It also reported that while QNN says it is independent, it has a reputation of being associated with Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a militant group.

        Not exactly a group I would associate with providing the full story

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          So you’ve cherry-picked from the Wikipedia article, with the transparent goal of trying to persuade that this organisation is not reliable. For example, I could say the following:

          From Wikipedia:

          In short - the site is independent, one of the most popular news sources in Palestine. Some people have tried to connect them to Hamas, but nothing has stuck. Israel killed the director of the site in 2023.

          “In 2015, the Christian Science Monitor reported that the network was run by 12 freelance correspondents and 60 volunteer field reporters…”

          “The QNN states it is independent and funds itself through advertisements, and that it aims to expose the acts of the Israeli occupation.”

          “QNN director Sari Mansour and freelance photographer Hassouneh Salim were killed by an Israeli airstrike on the Bureij refugee camp in central Gaza on 18 November 2023”


          Now I’m not saying I’m convinced either way. But my question is why are you trying obviously to convince me one way?

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            I’ve cherry picked because this video has been cherrypicked, and arguing with someone who’s just repeating its a video and just take what they call it as fact.

            Its like me saying “this is a video of Israel discussing and enforcing the best way to protect Palestine civilians while they protect themselves”, putting up a video of a few people in a uniform talking and expecting everything to comment back how amazing Israel is - I would expect everyone to cherry pick the issues with me doing this, especially when all I do is repeat “but its a video”.

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                Im not the one who posted the original video.

                Its like people sprouting “prove God doesn’t exist” - im not the one saying this is a fact and need to back it up.

                Saying that, one other poster did provide me with some pretty good insight with sources - ignoring before/after video possibilities the evidence they provided is pretty damming to Israel, and even without it they would have alot to answer for.

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      Well played, you seem to always question and needle at posts that show crimes against Palestinians. Never seem to question or confront the mass slaughter of women and children in Gaza. Never question the land grabs, the constant illegal settlement building, never the well established apartheid by Israel. Bravo, you’re not bad at being an apologist for genocide. Your willingness to dehumanize the Palestinian people still reveals itself. Regardless, the world can no longer unsee the horrors in Gaza. They are starting to see that Israel is led by religious fanatics, and has become its own worst enemy.

      https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/06/israel-occupation-50-years-of-dispossession/

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        Its almost like there is an entire propaganda campaign from both sides where facts and accuracy have taken a back seat to pushing agendas and swinging public opinion. Like the amount of people outraged by half truths is covering accurate reporting and fact from authoritive sources, and arguments are downvoting anything that doesn’t confirm to their already established world view that was built on these half truths.

        If you’re that pissed, block me and move on - because the basic who/when/where still hasn’t been answered.

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          Sealioning. ‘Both sides’ you say, and when was it that you ever focused on both sides? Tell us, what do you think of the mass slaughter of women and children in Gaza? The total leveling of infrastructure, schools, hospitals? Conditions of famine? Do you want to look up for us how many times Israel was called out for illegal settlement building going back decades? Did the land grabs ever stop? The apartheid upon the Palestinian people? The slow genocide now turned blitzkrieg. The fanatics in charge?

          Do tell. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/06/israel-occupation-50-years-of-dispossession/