Google’s a dumb ass company and I strongly suspect them to be Americas replacement to the echolon program mainly due to the timing.
Seems profits getting a bit more relevant than intelligence to them these days.
Yeah I’d rather go without YouTube than deal with the ads at this point they went ridiculous with it a long time ago.
Isn’t the replacement to Echelon, just PRISM? Which yes Google are a part of, along with Meta, Microsoft, etc. As well as the lesser known MUSCULAR program.
Could be I just can’t get over the timing of echolon suddenly being called over and Google appearing almost instantly
That said I still use Google just don’t trust it really I’ve always felt it was an intelligence company in truth and probably the echelons replacement.
Google being an ass about alternative YouTube clients is somewhat dumb but they likely prefer to control user experience. They’re a for profit entity so it shouldn’t be that surprising. Google kicking users that cost them money is not dumb.
Or maybe Google should just improve the experience so people want to pay for a premium subscription. But instead of investing in a better user experience they’d rather intentionally make it worse to drive consumers to pay to unshitify it. But instead they’re blowing loads of cash which could be used to invest in the platform and turn even more profit, but they’re using it to fight a war with their customers for short term profits. They are dumb.
Yup. I’ve considered paying for YouTube premium, but:
- it’s too expensive for how much I watch
- the YouTube app kinda sucks - NewPipe is nice to use (adjust volume and brightness by sliding a finger)
- it’s unclear how much creators get from my subscription
- there’s still sponsorships and whatnot
Nebula gets rid of the ads and sponsorships, and my understanding is creators get a larger cut vs YouTube. Grayjay allows me to follow multiple streaming services and has the volume/brightness management bits as well. I’m willing to pay for both of them because they bring value, YouTube doesn’t.
We’ll never know since we don’t have numbers that Google does. Sadly, that also makes Google the best candidate to determine what’s the best strategy for them :p
Or maybe Google should just improve the experience so people want to pay for a premium subscription.
The problem is that YouTube kind of already peaked, you can’t really make something that works well better
I don’t think the for profit changes anything necessarily. The problem is size and impossible situations bad worse by bad leadership
ELI5 why google won’t pull reddit on youtube API?
Go to any major publication, and I mean absolutely any one, and there is a solid chance there is at least a single YT embed.
If they try to Reddit their API they’re going to lose much, much more than just giving it away
X(Twitter) did it, that’s why i am little concerned.
Because YouTube is embedded a lot
YouTube already has ToS on their API and has paid tiers. But a lot (most?) of the third-party apps and tools bypass the API and directly scrape the site.
So why aren’t there reddit apps that do the same?
Because fuck reddit.
Or the war on drugs
I remember back when YouTube had ads. Haven’t had that issue for years now though.
Now it attacks, and nearly crashes my browser
Today, for the first time, I had 30 30-second ad on my smart TV like wtf. Is that even legal
Thirty 30 second ads? Am I reading that wrong?
Sorry for the typos. 30 second ads
You can fix the problem by just…. Not using YouTube.
Name another platform that has anyway near the similar popularity or usability (usability on third party apps)
Irrelevant. If I don’t like something, I don’t use it. If I do like it, I don’t complain about it.
You claim to hate society yet you participate in it? Owned /s
YouTube isn’t society kiddo.
Ooooooo
You can like something and want it to be better. In the lack of actual alternatives the vitriol against YouTube’s anti-user decisions makes a lot of sense. I think you’re just being contrarian.
I think the issue is that video content is expensive to make and host
This just in, people don’t like ads. At all. Most people.
It is time to find a new business model that works. I’m not smart enough to know what that is so that you don’t piss off users, but whoever figures it out will be a billionaire.
Maybe like a subscription where people could pay a fee to avoid ads?
The trouble with YT Premium is how much they’re charging for it.
We used a VPN to get Ukrainian family YTP for a fraction of the price they charge here in the UK. We pay something like £4 a month now for both of our accounts. That would be the better part of £20 a month if we’d done it legit. Fuck that noise.
Sure, it comes with YT Music, but I’ve literally never used that. I have Apple Music and an iPod. So £20 a month JUST TO REMOVE ADS.
Nah, fuck ‘em.
That is absolutely a solution. But what I’m talking about is a way to monetize while keeping the service free but without showing ads.
This is the billion dollar idea. If not trillion.
There is no such thing as a free service.
People need to eat, bills need to be paid, shelter needs to be provided and unless people can have these at no expense and create things for pure passion & share for others to enjoy then they need the means to pay for these things.
The internet has whittled this down to a few basic models:
- Pay the service directly for the content (subscriptions or 1 time purchases)
- ‘Free’ content and they serve you ads which they are paid for by companies trying to sell something to you
- ‘Free’ content and they sell every bit of data they can scrape from you to companies which are again, trying to sell something to you.
If you could find a way to do anything without having to pay for our human needs then would it be a trillion dollar idea or would money be meaningless now when people wouldnt need it to live & enjoy their lives?
I pay for YouTube and use FreeTube and NewPipe. I try to pay for whatever services I use. I think this is the way, either pay or let the ads play. I do this because the YouTube app is trash for many reasons mostly having to do with trying to funnel me to the money making bits.
There are greedy corporations making the user experience worse and doing everything they can to wring every penny they can. Ultimately, I attribute this to the wall street investor model. A company can be making money and still be losing because their revenues shrank from the prior quarter. That is a broken system that will only eat itself. That being said, people gotta eat and that includes the janitors, etc… at Google.
Point is, its a mixed bag. There are people on the other end making the product you are using, AND there is a soul sucking company making it worse for both their customers and their workers/creators. To be clear, there is something to be said about how poorly Google supports their creators. In many ways, they are taking advantage of the creators that use their platform. How is it that Google is making so much money in ads, but creators have to open Patreons?
I still don’t think we should just expect stuff for free.
Tangentially, I need to be better about helping support the open source projects I use, especially the smaller maintainers, to be honest, but I do send to a few and I encourage everyone to do so as well as much as they can.
edit: Grammar
Ads aren’t to bad, I watch them on TV. The problem is the targeted ads and surveillance
How about a cryptominer that runs while watching videos, that would surely be a great idea :D
/s
Back in the early days of youtube, I didn’t mind them. Just a few ads here and there. Nowadays, the internet is barely usable unless you have an adblocker.
They want people to pay for premium. That’s why they’re pushing more ads. To make the free plan insufferable.
Then they will enshitify premium when they have a large percentage on it.
The credit card companies should have invested heavily in micropayments. If I could just pay a tiny non subscription fee for a bit of media I would do that in a heartbeat.
Most people
Then how did google make money?
Firefox for Android, AdBlock, Firefox -> Chrome user agent fake plugin. Works very well without any ads or issues.
This supports PiP which is YouTube premium feature.
I would jump ship instantly to something better if the content would be there.
Is there an iOS equivalent of this setup?
Allegiance to Google is what’s ridiculous, they haven’t deserved to exist since their IPO and the parasite they are needs to be pulled off the internet
Ads have almost always been part and parcel of the YouTube experience. However, there’s a point at which ads become so frequent, so irrelevant, and so relentless that they start hurting the user experience. We’ve been past that point for a while now.
Ironically, without an ad blocker it’s hard to read the Android Police blog. I invite anyone to try.
