• Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
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      Fuck people that want to tell women what not to wear. You are doing the same like those forcing a hijab.

      Most women choose to wear hijab and are defending the right to do so.

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        “Choose” is a very loaded word here. Yes, technically, they have a choice between wearing a hijab and an alternative, but what is that alternative? For someone in a conservative Muslim community, there is an extreme stigma against choosing not to wear a hijab, so it’s a choice between wearing one or being shunned. If it’s a theocratic country, it’s a choice between wearing one and death. Yes, technically a choice, but no more of a choice than being robbed at gunpoint and “choosing” to empty your pockets to not be shot in the head.

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        Most women choose to wear hijab and are defending the right to do so.

        In democracies (and absence of family pressure) maybe, but in most of the world, I doubt it.

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            Shouldn’t the freedoms of women and education of men have evolved in 2000 years?

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          And you know that because you spoke with so many of these women, or you know that because you think being from a white western country entitles you to know best for everyone in the world?

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            Because I spoke with some of them, lived in different countries and my readings are not limited to information about my place of origin. What about you, do you come from a place that lets you know better about the world than mine, or your argument about having knowledge limited to your origin doesn’t apply to you?

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            How many non-muslimic women wear hijabs because they like to?

            How would one even get the idea to wear a hijab at all if it weren’t for religion?

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                  That shows how ignorant you all are. Anything that covers the hair and neck is a hijab. You all delude yourself into believing it is some special kind of garnment or some special way it has to be put on. And that is because it has to fit your narrative of what you believe muslims are or how muslims life, with a lot of white supremacy sprinkled on it.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijab

                  In modern usage, hijab (Arabic: حجاب, romanized: ḥijāb, pronounced [ħɪˈdʒaːb]) generally refers to various head coverings conventionally worn by many Muslim women.[1][2] It is similar to the tichel or snood worn by Orthodox Jewish women, certain headcoverings worn by some Christian women, such as the mantilla, apostolnik and wimple,[3][4] and the dupatta worn by many Hindu and Sikh women.[5][6][7] Whilst a hijab can come in many forms, it often specifically refers to a scarf wrapped around the head, covering the hair, neck and ears but leaving the face visible.

                  Literally the first picture in the Wikipedia Article shows a women with her Hijab in a style that you could find women in eastern Europe to wear too.

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        Would they choose to wear a hijab if that religion did not exist? Looking at the rest of the world, the answer is a resounding “no.”

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        It’s impressive how you turned this to be my fault lmao. Fuck you man, I don’t decide what people want to wear. Go take a hike

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        Everyone can still wear a scarves on their heads. Believe it or not it’s not a new or exclusively religious article of clothing.

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          Any scarve that covers the hair is considered a hijab. There is no special scarve for a hijab and hijabs can take all shapes, colors and patterns.

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              And who can judge about the purpose? And who has the right to judge about the purpose? And who has the right to arbitrarily forbid the one and embrace the other over his perception of the purpose?

              It all boils down to white people, in particular white men thinking they are superior to muslim women and they get to decide what is best for them. That is deeply ingrained racism.

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                Funny how suddenly iranian women can become white people. Funny how suddenly turkish people can be white people. Just keep playing the victim.