• stoy@lemmy.zip
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    1 month ago

    These are two different points.

    1. The government decided to make a drug require a prescription. Wheather this is good or bad in this specific case, I don’t know.

    2. A website is selling said drug without needing a prescription to the citizens in the same country. The government tries to stop it and make it follow the rules. This is good as the government has not verified what they are selling and can’t aproove a side channel bypassing their own rules.

    I get people being pissed at 1, but not doing 2 would be far worse than changing 1.

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      1 month ago
      1. The government decided to make a drug require a prescription. Wheather this is good or bad in this specific case, I don’t know.

      All drug? If so, this is bad.

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      1 month ago

      Alternative title:

      U.K. makes Google remove search results going to illegal prescription drug website

      is a comment that attempts to resolve the people in power of any wrongdoing over the situation

      and no, you can’t consider the two events in complete isolation from one another because they’re both targeting the same end goal

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        1 month ago

        What are you talking about?

        I am trying to focus the attention on the most effective target, namely the reason why Google was requested to take action in the first place.

        Focus your energy on the reason as to why the drugs are prescrption and deal with that problem, once that is done the website issues will solve itself.

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      1 month ago

      You’re missing 1.5: Make it impossible for people who every professional medical association of good repute says said medication help, get the medication by prescription.

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        1 month ago

        That is another issue, if the medical professional has excellent reputation and can prove and explain the need for the drugs then there is a need to figure out why their recommendations are not followed and what steps are needed to rectify that.

        If however the medical professional only has a good reputation in fringe/pseudo science circles, then the government should not just run ahead with their recommendations, untill there is solid evidence for their claims.

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          This is not about “fringe science.” Or, rather, it actually is; the fringe science being the evidence that the government is using for what they’re doing to trans people.

          The attacks on trans people in the UK are so insane that the government is now claiming, with a straight face, that people under the age of 25 are not capable of making medical decisions about their own bodies. That’s kind of quackery that is being employed to justify these decisions.

          The global medical community wholeheartedly agrees that puberty blockers and HRT are good and safe treatments. There is no meaningful medical consensus that says otherwise. However it is now almost impossible to actually get prescriptions for these drugs in the UK in anything short of a years long timeframe, which in the case of puberty blockers effectively makes it impossible to get them at all, since for obvious reasons they’re somewhat time sensitive. People are turning to illegal sources because they are being shut out from the legal ones.

          And no, the fact that puberty blockers and hormone replacement have some potential side effects is not a good reason to ban them (or restrict them so severely that they might as well be banned). Aspirin and paracetamol have potential side effects. Every drug does. In a functional society, the solution is to have doctors monitor the patient’s usage, and adjust dosages or switch to different drugs if problems arise. That’s how medicine works in the modern world. Carving out a specific exclusion to that just for trans people is bigotry, plain and simple.

          To steal a line, if any anti-depressant were as successful as HRT at treating depression, it would be hailed as a miracle. The only “controversy” over these drugs is manufactured by regressive idiots who hate and fear what they don’t understand.

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            I never called trans medicine fringe or pseudo science, I just said that the government should listen to the mainstream medical field.

            Fringe science in general needs to mature into mainstream science before governments can start dumping money on it.

            I don’t believe that it is wrong to demand evidence of science, I thought that was the entire point of science.