It feels like these huge ass companies are just testing people’s reactions before they do something these days.
Why the hell wasn’t it opt-in from the beginning?
For the same reason it used an unprotected DB. Because they don’t give a shit about your privacy or security.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Today, Microsoft announced it is addressing a recent backlash around Windows Recall, its controversial forthcoming AI-powered search service that works by taking a snapshot of your PC every 5 seconds.
Recently, it was discovered that the feature stores data unencrypted on the device.
The company says it will ensure Windows Recall data is safe by employing “just-in-time” protection, which ensures the data is only decrypted when the user authenticates into the app with Windows Hello.
Additionally, Microsoft says it will make Windows Recall an opt-in experience, meaning it won’t be enabled by default on Copilot+ PCs.
Microsoft also says it’s making further security improvements to Windows Recall.
It will now require Windows Hello (via facial recognition and/or fingerprint) to be set up on the system and require the user to be present in front of the screen to access Recall data.
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Def considering fedora for my surface 7. Microsoft & their shit is unacceptable.
Ive been using linux for like a year & a half !
Sweet! I was just being funny with my GIF, but I do honestly love the OS ecosystem, and think that everyone will like it more than Windows if only they’d give it the proper opportunity.
Im running a manjaro+openbox disto called MABOX linux on my chromebook. It’s fantastic for the low spec nonsense machine. But def considering fedora for the surface. Its come a long way apparently.
I’m actually having issues with fedora silverblue not updating. It’s pretty frustrating, but a risk I knew going into immutable. I don’t have time right now to figure out a fix. Regardless, I would totally do fedora again and recommend it to nonbeginners. It’s an awesome variant, even coming into it from debian-based distros with only cursory knowledge of dnf.
Opt-in does not matter, if I message or email someone who has it on, my personal data has been collected without my knowledge or consent.
This shouldnt have been built in the first place, it’s irresponsible
That’s true of any malware on your contact’s computer or an unsecure server, though. That is not specific or novel to this feature.
(I’m not saying I like this feature, or think it’s a good idea. I don’t, and it’s not)
This raises an excellent point not considered. This goes for all texts as well if the other person uses the “your phone” app. Discord, matrix, signal, telegram etc are all compromised by this existing on a system.
Will my browser’s “private mode” be respected or it is going to store every inappropriate thing I search?
Are password managers safe? How about bank security questions? How often are those actaully obfuscated. The last 4 digits of social security numbers are usually unobfuscated, who also what a lot of intuitions (stupidly) use to verify your ID over the phone. What if I want to look at the PDF of my tax documents?
What if my HR manager has this enabled and starts viewing PDFs containing private information about employees, payroll data, finances and whatever else is sellable on the dark web.
How about govermnet data? Sure maybe the pentagon IT staff will completely block it, but what about local gov committee ABC that’s collecting voter information?
That type of data is valuable enough that it will be targeted regardless of what protection MS attempts. Based on the fact they didnt bother encytping the data from the start, my faith is low.
The implications of this are insane.
As a reminder this was the go-to play for Facebook when they were caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Default it off until nobody’s looking and change it slightly so it was named ‘differently’ and on it went again.
Windows 10 will be the last I work on. I work in tech and won’t accept 11 as a work environment either.
security issues as in its very existence?
opt-in until next update when it will be enabled “magically”
I mean even if it is not mandatory but automatically enabled once, odds are %80 of the users won’t even bother turning it off so win for windows in any case
“Make it opt-in” (for 6 months) At this point, Microsoft is the biggest advisement for Linux desktop
Surely it’s opt in anyway, seeing as you need some special wanky laptop with a magical AI bollocks chip for it to work.
“We won’t turn it on and will never use it to spy on you” says government backed surveillance monopoly know for sneaking spyware into products and making it impossible to remove.
Yeah I don’t know what to do with this. I’m about to start to start wfh and handle a lot of data that cannot be shared and comes with big fines for mishandling. I have to have office, mainly excel. Is Apple my only option? I know Linux exists, but I’m not a power user, I struggle with my printer.
Is your company not providing you a computer? It’s up to them to manage that risk.
I am going wfh and I have to use their one drive to access client data. They will provide a computer, but versus my home setup it’s simply not worth it. I saw the idea about virtual windows and Linux machine. I’ve never done it but I imagine I can with some trial and error. But I’m wondering if even that is safe.
What do you mean it’s not worth it? If you use the company’s computer it’s on them to handle all the liability. If you use your own computer then you’re now on the hook. It is 100% worth it to use the company-provided computer.
Basically, they provide a decent Chromebook. It’s nearly impossible given the actual tasks. So I need to find a better way.
That’s not on you. I would communicate with management and illustrate that you can’t do your job without a proper computer. If they refuse to help, get it in writing. You should not be held accountable.
I feel like not wanting to do the work for certain Steam games is what keeps me on windows for my personal use (work makes the decision on my work machine).
I know it’s possible, I just don’t want to do the work
No judgement for your choices, but just so you know, it’s basically no work for the majority of games.
With the exception of any major games that have anti-cheat. I miss League of Legends.
I wouldn’t say “any” major games. Helldivers 2 is a notable exception.
I’ve played Helldivers 2 with no obstacles and no additional setup.
That’s what I’m saying. It has anticheat, and it runs on Linux without issue.
Ah, I apologize. I definitely was not fully awake when I read your original comment.
Yeah, anti-cheat and the Ubisoft launcher have been the only consistent obstacles. protondb.com is a fantastic resource, though.
I’m not a fan of LoL, so I can’t say from personal experience, but it looks like PlayOnLinux claims to support it. Hope you find your joy!
Good to know. I know wine can get steam going (assuming you don’t just use the Linux version). How do you get steam to download and install the game if it says it’s the wrong operating system? Sorry if that’s a dumb question
Your question isn’t dumb. You just haven’t been exposed to the environment. Please feel free to ask any question about this you have and, if I don’t answer, someone else probably will.
If you install the Linux version of Steam, it should allow you to download any game. There’s a checkbox in the Steam settings that says something like “run non compatible games through proton” (not what it says, but the general sentiment). Checking that and restarting Steam once is the extent of the setup required; after that, it’s essentially the same process as running a game in Windows (with the few exceptions mentioned by another commenter). Non Steam games should be able to be run by Lutris, PlayOnLinux or adding a non Steam game to Steam, but I mostly haven’t done that myself so I can’t vouch for it. Sincerely, for most games, it’s an easy process.
I’m no expert, but if you decide to pursue this and get stuck, please feel free to reach out to me and I’ll do my best to help. The link below seems like a good starting point: https://geekflare.com/install-steam-on-linux/
Thanks, I appreciate the advice and kind attitude. I’ll check it out
Trust is difficult to earn and easy to lose.
When did they earn it last time?
XP was made stable to counter Linux, it wasn’t something like trying to earn trust IMO.
Windows 7 was not that bad either, imo. Especially with the Aero theme
