I have mixed feelings on the pronoun use, but having read some of her autobiographical writing I don’t think she would have taken much issue with it. This piece is more focused on her work in computer engineering, so I felt it was appropriate to post here.

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    21 days ago

    I have mixed feelings on the pronoun use, but having read some of her autobiographical writing I don’t think she would have taken much issue with it.

    It’s fine how they’ve used it because it’s referring to the time before transition, so it’s just being accurate and also means the story makes more sense.

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      20 days ago

      I’m okay with it too. It adds context. If they referred to her as “she” describing the period she was a married father with kids it could be confusing.

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      21 days ago

      A lot of trans people would disagree. Just because someone was forced to confirm to their biological sex for years doesn’t mean they felt that way on the inside.

      Every trans person I know, without exception, prefers to refer to their pre-transition selves by their current pronouns and would take issue with the suggestion that they were still a boy/girl before becoming a girl/boy.

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        21 days ago

        That makes sense, but then the term “transition” seems incorrect. More of a “resolution”.

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          21 days ago

          Transition can refer to different aspects like your appearance or how you present socially. So transition is still the right term.

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        21 days ago

        What they “felt on the inside” is not the same as what they actually were at the time though. Referring to them as he or she is just a statement of fact at the time.

        We had this same thing when Ellen Page became Elliot Page. Then there was an attempt to retroactively change all references and make them Elliot Page, even though the work he did before was as Ellen Page.

        It’s not transphobic to acknowledge the person they were before transition.

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          21 days ago

          How about letting transgender people decide that?

          I for one want to be referred to by my chosen pronouns even in the past pre-transition.

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      21 days ago

      Trans person here. I vehemently disagree and would find this treatment exceptionally disrespectful.

      I transitioned at 17 though; referring to someone who transitioned later in life can be somewhat different.

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        21 days ago

        Why though? You were that gender, and then you transitioned to what you are now.

        Just because you weren’t happy as your birth gender doesn’t mean that it didn’t exist.

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          20 days ago

          Just because other people saw me as a certain gender doesn’t mean I actually was, especially not when it comes to my sense of self.

          I’m not trying to erase something that existed, I’m asking my family to reframe my childhood from the way they saw it to the way I actually experienced it. They’re empathetic and they love me, so they do me that service.

          I would ask a reporter attempting to cover my life story to do so in a way that’s consistent with how I want my life to be portrayed. Seems like basic respect.