By Paul Adams in Jerusalem, Anthony Zucher in Tel Aviv & Graeme Baker BBC News


Israel has rebuffed US Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s call for a “humanitarian pause” in Gaza.

Mr Blinken said he had discussed the idea with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other officials during their talks in Tel Aviv.

But in a TV statement minutes later, Mr Netanyahu said Israel rejected “a temporary ceasefire that does not include the release of our hostages”.

He said that Israel was “continuing with all our force” against Hamas.

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    If the Biden administration really wanted this, they wouldn’t ‘call for’ it. They would demand it and coerce those fascist fucks to comply. This is theater. It provides Biden a talking point to claim that he isn’t quite as ghoulish as a few Americans are starting to realize that he is.

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      Note that Biden and his administration are changing their tone, only AFTER major backlash from the Muslim community, the UN, EU and all the demonstrations going on. Turkey just cut ties with Netanyahu, yes everybody shits on Turkey, but at least they know how to give a signal.

      *“Netanyahu is no longer someone we can talk to. We have written him off,” Turkish media quoted Erdogan as saying.

      Erdogan’s remarks came a week after Israel said it was “re-evaluating” its relations with Ankara because of Turkey’s increasingly heated rhetoric about the Israel-Hamas war.* Like, you know everyone has a right to an opinion?

      Kids are dying every minute and all Biden can come up with is a plan to fight Islamaphobia? Bitch we don’t need your plan, every minority group has learned to survive without you.

      The world has changed, no one’s buying this shit anymore. There is no fucking way Israel will come out of this war as a victor. Starving people to death, cutting off water, displacing them and then bombing them indiscriminately to death even before setting one foot on the ground and then claim victory? History will know them forever as the cowards they are. Not ‘smart’ but cowards.

      Wouldn’t surprise me if Biden threw a few aliens at us at this point to distract us from what’s going on.

      The only thing he can do now, is to pack up his warships or hell, just even threaten to pack up, to let Israel see how serious he is and STOP Vetoing UN humanitarian aid resolutions.

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        All israel has to do is stop bombing civillians. Seems very simple to do.

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          Doesn’t get their people back. Doesn’t stop hamas from attacking them.

          So what does Israel stopping the bombing actually achieve? More years of terror inflicted upon the people of Israel from hamas?

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            You realise that once this is over Hamas would have a really easy time finding new recruits. You don’t really expect all those people pushed to the brink won’t radicalize, do you?

            And then what? Do you seriously think that leveling everything around including civilian infrastructure and in the process killing and injuring tens of thousands is the solution?

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                Oh so your solution is to kill 2.4M people in the course, how noble of you. I hope your parents are really proud of how good a job they did as parents.

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                    Ah yes, of course! It’s so much more humanitarian to evacuate 2M+ people out of Israel because Israel wants their land.

                    So tell me how you would feel if someone comes to your home with a gun and tells you that tomorrow you should move to another place with all your family? Seriously!

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                  Of they don’t evacuate that js what will happen. Of they evacuate they will find better loves outside of hamas control and will have bo reason to become radicalized

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                    With no right to return it’s still a genocide. Hamas doesn’t exist in the West Bank and Israel still steals their homes and guns them down.

                    You’re so painfully naive.

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            So what does Israel stopping the bombing actually achieve?

            Less years of terror inflicted upon the people of Gaza from Israel.

            IMO Israel should also stop targeting journalists

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              Until hamas attacks Israel again and then Israel attacks again.

              If hamas didn’t invade and attack innocent people at the start of October then Israel wouldn’t be bombing them right now.

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            Talk, negotiate, turn their own people on them by giving them basic human rights and treating them like real humans instead of what you’ve been doing to them for decades.

            And maybe stop killing peacemakers, remember the photo of Rabin and Arafat shaking hands? That day gave us all so much hope. That was the right way to go instead of giving in to your own terrorist settlers and asshole Netanyahu.

            Oh, and take a look at how Ukraine is winning public opinion and the war just by being decent, treating their prisoners of war justly, keeping civilian casualties at a minimum, not killing journalists, not start a disinformation campaign, …

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        All I read in the Israeli media is that basically Israel has given up on the hostages. And from Hamas’ standpoint, the smart thing to do is to hold on to those hostages for life, because the minute they let them all go, it will be a complete genocide.

        You forgot that you have to give the enemy a way out if you want the hostages back. Right now they have nothing to lose and every man, woman and child Israel kills is in their advantage. They may lose their lives, but their lives weren’t worth living anyway the way you treated them for generations…but Israel will lose everything in the end and they still can’t see it.

        You already lost.

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          The smart thing that hamas could have done is never attack.

          Israel is never going to free hundreds of terrorists to get the hostages back because it will only embolden hamas. The only way fir Isreal to stop hamas is to eradicate it