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    It isn’t about feelings. School shootings happen more in the US

    I never said they didn’t, and that wasn’t the point of what I was saying? Those warnings are for the user, not those around them. How the fuck is the warning printed on a gun/gun box going to help victims?

    You’re just attaching bad faith arguments to a completely unrelated statement which is bad for both free software and the anti-gun violence movement.

    And? So does cocaine.

    Recreational drugs should be legalized, with sensible regulations for each specific drug/category. Certain things should probably only be sold to people who are already addicted. But they should still be legal. Shitty point.

    That’s good. As a former IT guy I know that the natural urge of humans is always to read the manual first.

    You, me, and half of this site, platform, Fediverse? Point being is that the warning labels on guns are much louder, much more obvious, and much more present then the EULA most corporate software pushes.

    That’s sounds bad. You probably shouldn’t use it then. Notice how it doesn’t work for guns? No? Let me explain it to you.

    You can choose not to be on Instagram, you can not choose to not be shot dead. The state requires me to send my kids to school but does nothing to require that they are safe at school from gun owners.

    No shit, but making a bad faith argument that does nothing to actually solve the issue is just sticking a spoke in your wheel. Please tell me how putting “Warning: potential school shooter.” on a gun is going to actually prevent violent gun crime?

    If anything that sounds like a fucking advertisement for the sort of people who go commit school shootings.

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      never said they didn’t, and that wasn’t the point of what I was saying? Those warnings are for the user, not those around them. How the fuck is the warning printed on a gun/gun box going to help victims?

      Same way it will stop kids from social media. You know not fucking at all.

      Point being is that the warning labels on guns are much louder, much more obvious, and much more present then the EULA most corporate software pushes.

      Didn’t address what I wrote. La La la

      No shit, but making a bad faith argument that does nothing to actually solve the issue is just sticking a spoke in your wheel. Please tell me how putting “Warning: potential school shooter.” on a gun is going to actually prevent violent gun crime?

      The same way it will stop the communist plot of social media to contaminate and unpurify our precious bodily fluids.

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        Same way it will stop kids from social media. You know not fucking at all.

        Its almost like those warnings are intended to prevent accidental misuse and instill caution among its users. Obviously its not there to magically instill you with a working moral compass. Just as malware warning wouldn’t. There’s nothing new you’re adding, and again you’ve missed the point entirely.

        Also what’s with the focus on kids and social media? My comment was specifically about the state of the commercial software/computing industry as a whole.

        Didn’t address what I wrote. La La la

        How not? Humans don’t always listen to warnings, the warning labels on guns are some of the loudest/most obvious out there, and for good reason. I don’t know if you knew this but people ARE MORE LIKELY TO READ OBVIOUS LABELS. Here’s an idea, next time you accuse me of missing the point, how about you actually show how? if you need an example look at the first paragraph of this comment.

        The same way it will stop the communist plot of social media to contaminate and unpurify our precious bodily fluids.

        Lmao, what the fuck are you on about? This isn’t about thinking of the children, this is about don’t attatch your unrelated bad faith arguments to my free software evangialism. I’m here to spread the good word of the AGPLv3.

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            I like how you both completely ignored my points and went off on an unrelated tangent again. What makes you think I give a shit what some fuckin tools made the state gun?

            if anything, I find it to be a tasteless display of reactionary bullshit. Adults acting as children. Basically in the same ballpark as putting warning labels on guns/manuals that read: “Warning: Potential School Shooter”

            Neither your nor they have presented an actual solution to an issue. You’re just suggesting unrelated, reactionary bullshit meant to push buttons.

            Its not that I’m pro-gun, or anti-gun. Its that you don’t have any meaningful suggestions, and you have no idea how to present a solution. You don’t even seem to be able to accurately identify other peoples political beliefs or the ideas they’re trying to express.

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                You’re probably politically closer to them than I am, you pseudo-conservative, milquetoast, incrementalist , neo-liberal fuck.

                Where do you think you are?

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                    The fact that you’re tying an unrelated position made in bad faith to a legitimate conversation about corporate malware and free software. That is what pisses me off. That is what this is about. That’s what this entire fucking thing is about.

                    I mean if you had at least talked about red flag laws, or limiting credit card-based purchases of weapons for buyers under 30 we could talk. Even then its unrelated and completely derails the conversation, but its at least an interesting talking point.

                    Its not about my beliefs about gun control. Its the fact you don’t fucking read what your responding to. Why should any one give a shit about what you post when you refuse to read anything other than what you’ve written yourself?

                    Fuck off with the bad faith arguments, half-baked replies, and strawman bullshit.

                    Not sure what in your broken fucking head makes you think I’m a conservative, or why it makes sense to compare me to them. You deserve a medal for reading comprehension.

                    Go back to eating crayons.