The EU Council and its participants have decided to withdraw the vote on the contentious Chat Control plan proposed by Belgium, the current EU President.

Moritz Körner, Member of the European Parliament, disclosed the decision on Twitter. Swedish publisher SVG said, “The question was removed at the last moment from Thursday’s ambassadorial meeting in Brussels”.

  • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
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    11 days ago

    Don’t make the mistake of thinking that left mean anti-authoritarian. Left or right is an economic stance, and is orthogonal to beliefs surrounding government rights Vs population rights.

      • Skua@kbin.earth
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        11 days ago

        Also that. But I’d say that wewbull’s point stands that there are more and less authoritarian flavours of that too

      • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
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        11 days ago

        Measured on a different axis.

        You can have authoritarian left Stalin’s Russia) and authoritarian right (Nazi Germany). You can have liberal (i.e. non-authoritarian) left and right too.

        It’s clichéd, but the political compass explains the concept, but it’s still only one extra dimension. It’s still far better than just left Vs right.

    • Dojan@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 days ago

      When I say Left, I mean Vänsterpartiet, not some nebulous coalition. See their stance here.

      Chat control was a proposal on an EU level which meant that applications and social media platforms would be forced to scan all of their users messages. The proposal has been put forth by the EU comission as a part of a larger package with the purpose of protecting children against exploitation on the internet. The Left Party considers that the part specifically about chat control wouldn’t contribute to the end goals. There are more effective measures that need to be taken in order to protect children.

      After significant criticism from us and many others the EU parliament has significantly improved the proposal. They have among other things removed all parts regarding automatic scanning. This has meant that all parties now are in support of the EU-parliament position. The proposal is now on hold among the member states and instead another, temporary law has been extended to counter sexual abuse of children on the internet.

      Overall the Left (Vänsterpartiet) campaigns on a position of being against surveillance and the like. The Social Democrats (part of the Left coalition) however is in favour of it, because of course they fucking are. My issue here is obviously that they’re lying to our faces.

      On a much greater scale I have a lot of issues. For the most part I align mostly with V and MP, but we’re talking on a level of like 60-70%, so they don’t actually represent my views particularly well. In the grand scheme of things that’s also not something I’d expect; I’m rather extreme but I also realise that there’s only so much we can do when operating within the system we currently have. Thus I align with the parties that align the closest with the core beliefs I have, V and MP.

      One of my biggest icks when it comes to politics is hiding behind children. It infuriates me because it’s never genuine. It’s never about the fucking children, they’re just a convenient excuse because the moment someone criticises a suggestion, you can turn around and say “Oh so you hate children? Are you a paedophile? Why do you support children being harmed?”

    • QuantumSoul@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      11 days ago

      Not exactly orthogonal, left right could be viewed as an Principal Component Analysis reduced to only one axis. So there are correlations between stances but so much dimensions lost that it’s nearly useless

        • Lifter@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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          11 days ago

          That’s not true at all, mathematically. That’s why we have a measurement for co-variance or correlation. If two dimensions are 100 correlation, they can most definitely be reduced to one.

    • uis@lemm.eeEnglish
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      11 days ago

      Left or right is an economic stance, and is orthogonal to beliefs surrounding government rights Vs population rights.

      Left or right is political stance. The closest you can get it to economy is by saying “left prioritizes political freedoms, while right economic”.