• EndlessApollo@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Wowee, my comment gets removed, but all the transphobic dogshit gets to stay up. Yall are fucking disgusting. Have a shit day cissies

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      Wowee, my comment gets removed, but all the transphobic dogshit gets to stay up. Yall are fucking disgusting. Have a shit day cissies

      Why was this comment removed? I can’t think of any good reason, except transphobia.

    • Worx@lemmynsfw.com
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      3 months ago

      UN definition of genocide: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

      Although you can’t technically genocide trans people because they’re not one of the special groups outlined in the definition, you don’t actually need to kill people to commit a genocide. I would argue that there is “intent to destroy, in whole or in part” trans people by “Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group” and “Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part”. By taking away healthcare and other accommodations, serious harm is caused to trans people. Couple this with the high suicide rates of bullied and marginalised trans people, one could argue that the lawmakers are intending to kill trans people (although I personally wouldn’t go that far)

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        It’s not genocide for the same reason that straight-up euthanising, say, schizophrenics isn’t: Neither are a people, but a subset of every people.

        I’d lump it in with eugenics but genocide is catchy so I’ll permit it despite better semantic judgement.


        EDIT: What, y’all disagreeing with me about the use of “genocide” being politically opportune?

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      These neo-marxists thinking an adolescent not being comfortable with their body requieres immediate hormone treatment disgust me to the core. I’d bet my life 9 out of 10 are just gay people confused as fuck.

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        I mean, they keep killing themselves.

        If non-existence is preferable to the discomfort, I’d say the need to help them is pretty fucking immediate.

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        I wager 9 out of 10 people that get super offended by anything not like them have a 64% chance to be gay, themselves.

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      How is lack of healthcare = Not being represented?
      You are making a strawman argument, there is much more to it than not being represented.

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        By that logic, all US Citizens are victims of ongoing genocide.

        Genocides are a real thing that are really happening to people across the world, you can’t just make it mean something less than it is in good conscience.

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          Trans people are losing access to healthcare in disproportionate ways, and unless you’re literally the dumbest person alive or have never read a news headline… you know that they are. Your disingenuous denial contributes to the problem. You are contributing to genocide.

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      It’s not just lack of representation though. The UK is removing trans people’s access to the healthcare that allows them to live a tolerable life.

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        And that is a very serious issue that I feel deeply for and want to help them overcome it.

        But it’s not a fucking genocide.

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          Because denying genocide is cool and good, and being mean to the people denying your genocide is bad (:

          /s cissies will always be snowflakes who are more offended by an insult than an attempt to wipe out trans people

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    Why do we call it “Gender” reassignment surgery, when it’s actually Sex-reassignment surgery? Gender isn’t sex, remember?

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      Because you can’t surgically change someone’s sex; or do you think that eg. trans women have wombs? Here’s how the Canadian Institutes of Health Research explains the difference:

      Sex refers to a set of biological attributes in humans and animals. It is primarily associated with physical and physiological features including chromosomes, gene expression, hormone levels and function, and reproductive/sexual anatomy. Sex is usually categorized as female or male but there is variation in the biological attributes that comprise sex and how those attributes are expressed.

      Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men, and gender diverse people. It influences how people perceive themselves and each other, how they act and interact, and the distribution of power and resources in society. Gender identity is not confined to a binary (girl/woman, boy/man) nor is it static; it exists along a continuum and can change over time. There is considerable diversity in how individuals and groups understand, experience and express gender through the roles they take on, the expectations placed on them, relations with others and the complex ways that gender is institutionalized in society.

      Yeah, sure, a perdant could argue that “gender correction surgery” is the wrong term since gender is a social construct and that’s not what’s literally done in the operation, because the operation is more about correcting (ie into accordance with whatever that person’s gender is) external “markers” of sex and/or genitals, but that doesn’t mean sex reassignment is therefore the correct term.

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        Sex refers to 2 out of the 3 things you’ve mentioned there. Hormone Levels and Function, and Reproductive/Sexual anatomy.

        We can’t change chromosomes (and gene expression is essentially the same category here) - so it’s literally our closest attempt at altering sexually dimorphic characteristics. I’ve been told time and time again gender is fluid, can change on a day to day basis, is based on socially constructed roles, and the jury is still out on if it has nothing to do with sex, or has everything to do with sex. I’ve heard answers from both sides on that one.

        So it makes no sense to me why we allow it to be called Gender reassignment.

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          Yeah I also think it’s dumb. I’m not gonna change my gender, I’m going to change my dick into a clit/pussy. That’s literally reassigning my primary sex characteristics. Hormones also changed my sex, do people think my boobs are a gender thing?

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      Because we don’t. The old name was “Sex Reassignment Surgery” (SRS), but the new names are “Gender Affirming Surgery” and “Gender Confirmation Surgery”.

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    “It’s not really genocide, they’re just forcing trans kids to detransition and taking away more and more trans rights while government and culture get more and more violently anti trans so it’s ok!”

    Cissies don’t deserve rights

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      “It’s not really genocide, they’re just forcing trans kids to detransition and taking away more and more trans rights while government and culture get more and more violently anti trans so it’s ok!”

      Cissies don’t deserve rights

      Why was this comment removed? And all the genocide denial is allowed to remain?

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    What kind of trash tier journalism is this. Genocide is a real, serious issue. You can’t just call something a genocide metaphorically, that’s incredibly disrespectful.

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        The advocate is a very real organization. However, they lean towards the dramatic. That’s how you get attention to topics that some people don’t want to think about.

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      Lack of healthcare and lack of rights and protections that are common for other minorities, together with a huge deal of oppression, often violence and sometimes murder, is absolutely a kind of genocide, and in no way disrespectful to other forms of genocide.

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        I’m gay. And this isn’t genocide. You could use hate, bigotry, segregation possibly, but genocide requires death, not “sometimes death,” and it’s the whole group, not just the ones who cannot defend themselves. Rich LGBT in the UK are doing just fine.

        Genocide is the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

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          If a transsexual can’t have proper healthcare, it can in fact result in death, that is very real.
          Another thing that’s real is that they are treated so poorly in general that they have the highest suicide rate by far of any minority.
          Finally many choose not to live as the gender they wish they could, because it’s too problematic even dangerous. Even if this isn’t a physical death, it is killing the existence of people that can live their life as transgender.

          Much the same way as the Iranian president when he visited New York some years ago, claimed that Iran did not have homosexuals, so there was no oppression of them.
          A completely ridiculous claim we know is biologically impossible, and we know is false because they seek refuge in the west.
          And we know Iran executes people for being homosexual, which of course is the ultimate genocide of homosexuals.

          Or will you deny that too?
          https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3642673

          Iranian president says country has no gays

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            Not every oppressed Group of people can be compared to the Jews in Nazi Germany. 6 million trans people aren’t being killed they just have dubious health Coverage. Don’t get me wrong, history won’t look kindly on that.