• ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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    5 months ago

    True, as far as big leaps go there hasn’t mean anything since the introduction of lithium based batteries to the market.

    Until now. This is it and they have production working. Safer than lithium. Longer lasting, quicker charging, should perform fine in extreme cold, more energy dense, and solid state.

    The next big thing is finally here.

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      5 months ago

      I know you’re correct, since there are now solid state batteries on the market which outperform liquid-electrolyte LiPo batteries, but just stating “we’re at the tipping point” without dropping any link as evidence makes your claim very unconvincing.

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        5 months ago

        That guy on Undecided is a bit of a dunce. He never actually checked or tested in any way that the yoshino psu uses real solid state batteries. He just bought it from Amazon and it’s advertised on Amazon as having them.

        But they likely aren’t solid state batteries in that psu he bought. He even admitted as much in a podcast just last week.

        Other people have done teardowns on those yoshino batteries and have apparently found that they are not solid state. They still contain a liquid.

        Here. I think he talks about it somewhere around 25 minutes in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aciA1dKz5iE

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      5 months ago

      Until now. This is it and they have production working.

      I hope you’re right, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

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        5 months ago

        A giant name like samsung and the auto makers they’ve teamed up with like Toyota aren’t going to bullshit about the batteries being in production. There’s no benefit to doing so. It’s not like they’re trying to raise investment capital.

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          5 months ago

          Samsung is not the “bullshitter”. Samsung did not write this article. Samsung didn’t claim that these will be in cars or anywhere else anytime soon.

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            5 months ago

            Yes they have. Not from this article, though. Same for Toyota. They announced a 2027(likely) solid state battery EV months ago.

            As for “samsung didn’t claim this”, they put the battery on display at the trade show in Seoul, and it’s been reported by tons of outlets. Samsung has very clearly announced it.

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              No they haven’t. Samsung didn’t say they have a 600 mile battery. The author did. Which is nonsense for a variety of reasons, which is exactly my point

              They announced a 2027(likely) solid state battery EV months ago.

              …likely? Based on what?

              they put the battery on display

              No one is trying to claim the battery doesn’t exist so I’m not sure what your point is.