• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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    3 months ago
    1. I watched the video and honestly just this one dude standing in this unidentified location for unknown reasons with a patch that maybe looks like a Wagner patch if you zoom in and squint, doesn’t really mean anything.
    2. I had no particular opinion about the Venezuela elections and no idea that anyone in geopolitics cared, until some of the Lemmy propagandists who also don’t like Ukraine started going HARD that Maduro was the best and totally won and González was a tool of US imperialism and Elon Musk.
    3. Fact check bot? Where you at? I sorta want to know what’s up with this site I’ve never heard of
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      3 months ago

      I mean its an open secret that the US likes to meddle in Venezuelan politics with varying degrees of military force. So it makes sense to me that Russia would also want to be there just because of that.

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        Yeah. Venezuela has a TON of oil which makes it of interest to anyone in the world who likes to go around fuckin with people and taking their stuff.

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          Venezuela’s oil reserves are the last that should ever be pumped out of the ground in the world. It is thick like bitumen, full of heavy metals and hard to process because it has lots of Sulphur, so it’s corrosive. It is almost as bad as burning coal and produces less high-value light hydrocarbons like gasoline and more bunker fuel that can only be used in tankers and industry…which are heavy polluters.

          I’m almost tempted to say that it would be better for those reserves to be under the control of a backwards dictator who won’t be able to develop them or privatize them, but China has its eyes on exploiting those reserves too, not just the US, so even that unethical argument is moot.

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            Isn’t the whole point that oil is easy for anyone to exploit, including backwards dictators? Unlike say, semiconductor manufacture which requires complex processes and therefore a functioning society

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              Not always, Venezuelan oil requires high investment and gives low return, so it requires a competent government who can keep a level of education/safety and/or can let expertise flow in with an expectation that they will get a long term return. At this rate neither are going to happen and Venezuela is fucked unless China goes all in.

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      3 months ago

      They don’t have an MBFC page, which is a bit weird since according to their Wikipedia page they’ve been around for 26 years. I couldn’t find any bias rating info on them anywhere.

      The story seems a bit sketchy. IntelliNews attributes the video to Jason Jay Smart – a political consultant and writer for the Kyiv Post. The video didn’t originate with him though. About 6 hours earlier it was posted by ‘The Spot News’ who are probably a fake news organization*. They don’t seem to have a web presence beyond that twitter account. Spot News was used as the source for this article from Defense-Blog that pre-dates the IntelliNews piece.

      The earliest post with the video I can find is here from ‘Ukraine News 24 Hours’, who are also not really a news org and just link to a telegram account. They claim that they posted it but, who knows? Most references to the video describe it as “appearing online” without any attribution, which itself is a bit sketch. No one really reputable is reporting this (yet?).

      • Edit: by “fake news organization” I mean that they are not a real news organization, not that they are necessarily posting fake news (though they could be!)
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        3 months ago

        If the video is fake or more verification by other outlets doesn’t show up, I’ll certainly take the post down.

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          Personally I don’t think it’s wrong to have it up; there is enough bullshit in the “factual” news that I think it’s okay if people see this interesting thing while still being aware of the context that maybe it is a weird mistake or means nothing at all.

          To me the model of “let me take the information and figure out for myself and based on comments whether I think it is well founded enough to take seriously” is better than “the mods and MBFC bot will keep me safe, anything untrustworthy should come down, anything that does stay up I can just accept uncritically because it’s had a stamp of being definitely trustworthy”.

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    Wagner Group? Weren’t they part of the anti-Putin Faction when the war with Ukraine started to go downhill?

    I would be surprised to learn they’re operating anywhere at all.

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      3 months ago

      If you’re a 40k fan familiar with the theory that the 2nd and 11th legions had their marines glommed into the Fists and Blueberries…

      …that.

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        Hey, there’s literally no evidence they were traitors and, in fact, probably weren’t because we know what they do with traitor legions and it’s different.

        However, knowing about them is treason and so is talking about them, double traitor.

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      3 months ago

      We’ve already seen what Ukraine will do in response to a confirmed sighting in Mali.

      Venezuela is about to see a plot straight out of Operation Nemesis play out.

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    3 months ago

    I think it’s obvious that Putin has to be killed in the name of global political stability.

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    3 months ago

    One of the conspiracies around Prigozhin’s death suggested that he was alive in Margarita island in Vzla… which makes no sense. But finding wagner’s mdrcenaries in vzla is kind of quaint.