The play is not about Israel but instead tells the story of a Jewish man preserving his family’s traditions in a village in imperial Russia at the turn of the 20th century. The performance on Monday went ahead as planned after the protest at the cafe.
“This is a performance of Fiddler on the Roof,” they wrote alongside footage of the protesters. “So, if you’re busy condemning racist demonstrations, but not this, & you don’t think they should be prosecuted, stop preening yourself. You’re happy with racism – it’s only the target that you worry about.”
That’s pretty stupid.
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I don’t know whether or not they’re antisemitic, but they do need to read the fucking room.
It is absolutely antisemitic. Fiddler on the Roof is about the Jewish culture and has nothing to do with Zionism or Israel.
This would be like protesting against Saudi Arabia actions at an Eid festival.
I’m Jewish (I’m even a mod in our Jewish community here on lemmy.world) and I am very sensitive to antisemitism, but there is also a lot of ignorance which you can call a form of soft bigotry if you like, but it does not rise to something I would consider antisemitism.
It could very well be that this was a case of a bunch of ignorant people.
Someone else suggested (based on the article itself) that it may have been coincidental and the protest just happened to be in the vicinity of the musical.
Or they were a bunch of antisemites.
I don’t feel like I have enough information to judge.
While we’re all tip-toeing around the criticize Israel minefield, remember that the Zionists don’t pay any attention to these rules. They’ll couch Israeli policy in Judaism as it suits them. And they’ll raise antisemitism as a bludgeon and the Shoah as a shield.
It’s a big disadvantage when only one side is nervous about appearing as a racist monster while the other is breaking new ground in bigotry and monstrosity.
Who is tip-toeing around the criticize Israel minefield? Criticize Israel all you like, just read the fucking room when you do it.
The article doesn’t have any statements from the protestors about why they were protesting there. Seems like a glaringly obvious omission.
I was noticing that, and a suspicious lack of reason for why this play would be singled out. Those kinds of omission make this super sketchy imo, it often indicates not that the protestors had no point or were antisemitic, but that they had a point and the article is withholding it to paint them as antisemites. Hopefully there are first hand sources or less biased news articles that explain it
Because the play involved Jewish protagonists even though it had nothing to do with Israel or Palestine? That’s the point.
Pro-Palestinian protests are justified, but when they do things like this or things like defacing the statue of Anne Frank, they are clearly being appropriated by those who say Zionism so they can avoid the antisemitism label.
Also, it’s not exactly clear where “there” even was
A video shared on social media shows protesters holding Palestinian flags and accusing theatregoers at a cafe next to Regent’s Park Open Air Theatre of “Zionism”.
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A spokesperson for Regent’s Park Open Air Theatre said: “The videos that emerged on social media were exchanges that did not take place at Regent’s Park Open Air Theatre. Last night’s performance went ahead as planned.”
Was this demonstration actually in response to the play performance or did they just happen to be near each other?
Morons. I support the other pro-Palestinian protests.
There’s a second layer of heavy irony here when you look at what led to the Zionist movement in the first place.
Jewish persecution across Europe had always been a thing, but following the Russian revolution, there were pogroms of Jews, who were scapegoated by Tsar supporters as responsible for the revolution.
This was the straw that broke the camel’s back. It led a prominent Jewish thinker/author to conclude that Jews would never have safety or security unless they had their own country. Simultaneously, Jewish culture was undergoing changes and enlightenment at the time. All of this taken together is what gave rise to a powerful Zionist movement.
Fiddler of the Roof is the last thing anyone should protest, because preserving Jewish culture in Russia and hostilities from Russia towards it are what led to Israel in the first place!
People are dying in a literal genocide and this garbage gets upvoted?
Oh shit a protest was near a fucking play, stop the press who cares about genocide against the Palestinians let’s focus on bogus claims of antisemitism instead.
This is an obvious case of trying to tar pro-Palestine supporters as antisemitic, same as has been done every other day by the media and zionists.
I think it would be disingenuous to claim there aren’t a lot of antisemites involved in Pro-Palestinian protests.
Depends how you quantify “a lot”. More then none, much less than a majority.
It’s an uneven distribution, like the post demonstrates.
Uneven with what?
The challenge with the left is that any attempt to call out that antisemitism or those individuals is seen as an attempt to undermine the entire movement.
I would love to see a free and safe Palestine alongside a free and safe Israel. Some will accuse me of being hateful or at least delusional for wishing for peaceful co-existence.
Are performances about Nakba allowed in Israel? Asking for a friend.
This was in London and has nothing to do with Israel whatsoever, so how is that relevant?
So, are performances about Nakba allowed in Israel?
I have no idea. Again, how is this relevant?
Do you think all Jews are Israeli? Do you think Fiddler on the Roof has an all-Jewish cast? Do you think it’s about Israel?
It is about an individual against the oppressive state. You know, like Palestinians in Israel 🙄
So, what about performances about Nakba? I will give you a hint - organisers of such performances have their funding removed and may be persecuted in “democratic” Israel. Go figure.
Again- this is a musical in London about Jews in Russia in the early 20th century.
Please answer my questions:
Do you think all Jews are Israeli?
Do you think this production of Fiddler on the Roof has an all-Jewish cast?
Do you think it’s about Israel?
So, are performances about Nakba allowed in Israel?
You have one last chance here to explain what that has to do with this before you get banned for trolling.
