Even though I’m on here, I honestly lurk most of the time and don’t fully understand the activitypub vs at protocol war. This was a great explainer that will reach a lot of people. Really appreciate a lot of David’s takes. I hope David and others at MKBHD become aware of and talk about Lemmy soon too.

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    It’s an interesting video and having read the comments there are a few things worth noting:

    1. from a layman’s perspective I understand the focus on threads, for most like it or not it’s the simplest entry point into the Fediverse
    2. its important that this type of podcast is talking about this subject at this time
    3. sure it’s dumbed down, we are not the audience

    It’s no surprise either it was released as Meta did some big fediverse PR yesterday…

    What’s important right now is getting bums on seats, keeping activitypub momentum moving forward.

    Interesting video, hope it spawns more curiosity

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    Eugh MKBHD. Biggest tech stooge around, what’s the bet this is a puff piece for some company.

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    So a bunch of navelgazers talking with other navelgazers, typical 2024 net.

    It’s hard to know why Meta wants the fediverse: they can already scrape most of the data and it doesn’t pose a threat to them, so why bother EEEing it? Maybe kill it while it’s growing?

    The only useful information i got was that AT supports account migration, that’s cool.

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      22 days ago

      I think leave if your instance federates. Vote with your feet, not much else you can do

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        🤷

        Just finished the video. The whole thing came across as fairly naive and seemed mostly focused on Threads and thinking about the fediverse as an extension/ only making it because of Threads. I think it should be noted that on both Mastadon and lemmy, the bigger players on the thrediverse, its specficially and culturally “against” the kind of ownership model that facebook brings to the table. Because of this i think Facebooks involvement deserves more scrutiny, specifically, if they think they can become dominant over the activity pub/ different federated apps development, they can take control.

        Which should be real concern for all of us. Meta is a bad company of effectively all bad faith actors. And I didn’t see anything challenging the underlying presumptions the portend these companies. What I saw was some tech adjacent content creators with one big name creator as anchor effectively discussing how to colonize the fediverse.

        My opinion is that we need free and open and un-owned spaces on the internet.

        I’m not interested in threads and I generally think we should distrust any large companies involvement in the threadiverse beyond simply having an account.

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          As much as fediverse development is centered on Mastodon and lemmy, and as much as I want them to succeed, Threads is bigger than both of them combined. FB used their monopoly to leapfrog the rest of the Fediverse here.

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            Yeah see you’ve got the same brain-worm thing going on. Its like a disease.

            Its an attitude or an approach that is embedded in a world view which everyone on that panel displayed.

            Leapfrog the rest of the fediverse

            To do what? For what ends? Something that panel seemed fully incapable of was understanding why people are on the fediverse. Something I dont think you realize that you too are missing as well.

            Ask yourself: Why are people leaving spaces like Twitter for Mastadon? Why did we leave reddit (many of us who had been there for years) to hangout on a smaller, more diminutive lemmy?

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              I dont know what argument you’re trying to make, or what you think I’m saying, but I don’t appreciate you saying I have brain worms. Fuck off.

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      Join an instance that’s already explicitly defederated from them (there are several). Or set up your own.