If that happens, no point making anything, since your stuff will get stolen anyway
From a capitalist’s point of view, yes, but we need a society that enables people to act from other incentives than making money. And there are plenty of other reasons to make things.
I’m okay with it if they do some kind of open source GPL style license for the copyrighted material, like you can use all the material in the world to train your model, but you can’t sell your model for money if it was trained on copyrighted material.
To clarify, you can sell GPL licensed programs but any GPL licensed software us inherently worth 0$, because the first person that buys it is now able to give it away for free.
Donation, patronage, gift economy, mutual aid, or whatever you want to call it is fine by me. People can pirate a lot of proprietary software as well, yet people still pay.
Piracy has clear downsides with proprietary software in most cases. Lack of updates and support are big ones. Also its considered moral to pay for your software.
Yes, people turned a blind eye towards OpenAI because they were supposedly an “open” non-profit company working towards the benefit of humanity. They got tons of top talent and investment because of this. The crazy part is that they knew they weren’t gonna keep it non-profit based on the internal chat revealed in Elon Musk’s lawsuit. They duped the whole world and now just trying to make as much money as possible.
In my opinion, if they were to release these models openly and everyone had equal opportunity to benefit from their research (just like the previous research their current stuff is based on), they could be excused but this for-profit business model is the main problem.
If openai gets to use copyrighted content for free, then so should every one else.
If that happens, no point making anything, since your stuff will get stolen anyway
From a capitalist’s point of view, yes, but we need a society that enables people to act from other incentives than making money. And there are plenty of other reasons to make things.
AI is the capitalist dream. Exploit the labor and creativity of others without paying them a cent.
I’m okay with it if they do some kind of open source GPL style license for the copyrighted material, like you can use all the material in the world to train your model, but you can’t sell your model for money if it was trained on copyrighted material.
You absolutely CAN sell GPL-licensed applications for money.
To clarify, you can sell GPL licensed programs but any GPL licensed software us inherently worth 0$, because the first person that buys it is now able to give it away for free.
Yet, people still pay for it.
An optional fee is a donation.
Donation, patronage, gift economy, mutual aid, or whatever you want to call it is fine by me. People can pirate a lot of proprietary software as well, yet people still pay.
Piracy has clear downsides with proprietary software in most cases. Lack of updates and support are big ones. Also its considered moral to pay for your software.
These same arguments are equally true for GPL software.
Yes, people turned a blind eye towards OpenAI because they were supposedly an “open” non-profit company working towards the benefit of humanity. They got tons of top talent and investment because of this. The crazy part is that they knew they weren’t gonna keep it non-profit based on the internal chat revealed in Elon Musk’s lawsuit. They duped the whole world and now just trying to make as much money as possible.
In my opinion, if they were to release these models openly and everyone had equal opportunity to benefit from their research (just like the previous research their current stuff is based on), they could be excused but this for-profit business model is the main problem.
Everyone else does. Name one thing you have to pay for to view on the internet…lmfao