• socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
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    2 months ago

    And before people say “not Lemmy, we are too small” - It’s pretty obvious that a major Lemmy instance is literally a training ground for these recruits before they get promoted to Facebook and reddit duty (either intentionally or otherwise). There have been a few narratives this election which seem to have been tested out on here weeks before getting to Facebook and reddit. “Blue MAGA” was a pretty obvious one they seemed to workshop on Lemmy.

    • kingthrillgore@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Yep, i’ve noticed their rhetoric has gotten bad on the Memes sub. I just unsubbed there actually. 196 is more fun anyways.

    • pop@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 months ago

      I mean the US gets to shape the narrative everywhere else by making the social companies to do so, but the people removed about how they’re being manipulated in return is always going to be hilarious.

      Lemmy is being overrun by brainwashed wankies more than anything.

      There have been a few narratives this election which seem to have been tested out on here weeks before getting to Facebook and reddit. “Blue MAGA” was a pretty obvious one they seemed to workshop on Lemmy

      can you post some links?

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Lemmy is being overrun by brainwashed wankies more than anything.

        It’s all the same people who comment on YouTube and post ForwardsFromGrandma on Facebook. Its not like there’s some secret reserve of “normal” people that are being diluted. Americans are going to American, whether they’re cheer leading our invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, freaking out over a gay couple trying to buy a wedding cake, or marching around Charlottesville with torches.

        These assholes are everywhere. And when you call them on their bullshit, their knee-jerk response is “You’re anti-American! No aktuly you’re the extremist! You’re either with us or you’re with the Terrorists! You’re not even a real person, you must be an elaborate engineered computer program / insincere paid special agent specifically tasked with tricking me into questioning my preconceptions!”

        Implying that folks are “brainwashed” assumes they had some better prior understanding of the world that was subsequently overwritten by a nefarious evil agent. But this baseline ultra-nationalism is the original conception we’re raised with. American Exceptionalism is the norm and believing in it is for normies.

        They’re not the freaks and weirdos and wankies for adhering to this very cloistered understanding of the world. We’re the freaks for questioning it, for interrogating it, and god-fucking-help-us-all rejecting it.

    • HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
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      2 months ago

      this is a bit scary as the fediverse is likely a bit more difficult than facebook and such. I hate to think we are training them to well.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      It’s pretty obvious that a major Lemmy instance is literally a training ground for these recruits

      Is there any evidence to substantiate this claim, or are we doing the “Everyone on the instance I don’t like is a Russian bot, because they disagree with me” line of reasoning?

      “Blue MAGA” was a pretty obvious one they seemed to workshop on Lemmy.

      Wasn’t this in response to the dead-end Biden guys who were growing increasingly hysterical as he tanked out in the polls? Lemmy’s gotten significantly more normal since Harris took the top of the ticket and the numbers have rebounded.

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Is there any evidence to substantiate this claim, or are we doing the “Everyone on the instance I don’t like is a Russian bot, because they disagree with me” line of reasoning?

        It’s option B in all cases.

      • socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Nah, more like “Russian bots exist and some people I disagree with are Russian bots.” Which is pretty much the entire premise of the article.

        It’s also pretty easy to tell the difference IMO. The trolls tend to just do nothing but troll and flame. They don’t really spend much time engaging on other topics.

        As far as why I think Lemmy is a training ground? Call it a hunch. Obviously I don’t have a notarized letter from a troll farm saying that they are in control of a certain worldnews forum, but a lot of the usual suspects fit a bit too neatly into that box to not raise an eyebrow. There are some other patterns as well but its definitely all circumstantial.