• half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I used to follow the Penrose stuff and was pretty excited about QM as an explanation of consciousness. If this is the kind of work they’re reaching at though. This is pretty sad. It’s not even anything. Sometimes you need to go with your gut, and my gut is telling me that if this is all the QM people have, consciousness is probably best explained by complexity.

    https://ask.metafilter.com/380238/Is-this-paper-on-quantum-propeties-of-the-brain-bad-science-or-not

    Completely off topic from ai, but got me curious about brain quantum and found this discussion. Either way, AI still sucks shit and is just a shortcut for stealing.

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      2 months ago

      That’s a social media comment from some Ask Yahoo knockoff…

      Like, this isn’t something no one is talking about, you don’t have to solely learn about that from unpopular social media sites (including my comment).

      I don’t usually like linking videos, but I’m feeling like that might work better here

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa2Kpkksf3k

      But that PBS video gives a really good background and then talks about the recent discovery.

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        2 months ago

        some Ask Yahoo knockoff…

        AskMeFi predated Yahoo Answers by several years (and is several orders of magnitude better than it ever was).

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          2 months ago

          And that linked accounts last comment was advocating for Biden to stage a pre-emptive coup before this election…

          https://www.metafilter.com/activity/306302/comments/mefi/

          It doesn’t matter if it was created before Ask Yahoo or if it’s older.

          It’s random people making random social media comments, sometimes stupid people make the rare comment that sounds like they know what they’re talking about. And I already agreed no one had to take my word on it either.

          But that PBS video does a really fucking good job explaining it.

          Cuz if I can’t explain to you why a random social media comment isn’t a good source, I’m sure as shit not going to be able to explain anything like Penrose’s theory on consciousness to you.

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            2 months ago

            It doesn’t matter if it was created before Ask Yahoo or if it’s older.

            It does if you’re calling it a “knockoff” of a lower-quality site that was created years later, which was what I was responding to.

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              2 months ago

              Great.

              So the social media site is older than I thought, and the person who made the comment on that site is a lot stupider than it seemed.

              Like, Facebooks been around for about 20 years. Would you take a link to a Facebook comment over PBS?

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                2 months ago

                My man, I said nothing about the science or the validity of that comment, just that it’s wrong to call Ask MetaFilter “some Ask Yahoo knockoff”. If you want to get het up about an argument I never made, you do you.