Copy/pasting my comment from the earlier thread on this that got deleted for misinformation
After reading about the actual feature (more), this seems like an absolutely gigantic non-issue. Like most anti-Mozilla stories end up being.
The whole thing is an experimental feature intended to replace the current privacy nightmare that is cross-site tracking cookies. As-implemented it’s a way for advertisers to figure out things like “How many people who went to our site and purchased this product saw this ad we placed on another site?”, but done in such a way that neither the website with the ad, nor the website with the product, nor Mozilla itself knows what any one specific user was doing.
The only thing I looked for but could not find an answer on one way or the other is if Mozilla is making any sort of profit from this system. I would guess no but actually have no idea.
There are definitely things that can be said about this feature, like “Fuck ad companies, it should be off by default” (my personal take), or “It’s a pointless feature that’s doomed to failure because it’ll never provide ad companies with information as valuable as tracking cookies, so it’ll never succeed in its goal to replace tracking cookies” (also my take). But the feature itself has virtually no privacy consequences whatsoever for anybody.
I’m absolutely convinced there’s a coordinated anti-Firefox astroturfing campaign going on lately.
The only thing I looked for but could not find an answer on one way or the other is if Mozilla is making any sort of profit from this system. I would guess no but actually have no idea.
Fuck ad companies…
Mozilla bought an ad company (Anonym) shortly after implementing PPA. Their goal appears to be to pivot their revenue plan to (in part) being an ad company.
I’m absolutely convinced there’s a coordinated anti-Firefox astroturfing campaign going on lately.
I cannot know for sure whether that’s true or not, but a lot of very bad decisions have happened at Mozilla over the last six months and I think they’ve been the straw that’s broken the camel’s back.
Their acquisition of Anonym was all about acquiring the feature this article is about, PPA. Anonym created PPA. In fact Anonym seems to have been created for the explicit purpose of creating this privacy-respecting system as an alternative to cross-site tracking cookies. I see no reason to doubt Mozilla’s intentions here.
Sorry I thought they were a separate thing. Thanks for bringing it up.
I genuinely cannot understand why people hate mozilla so much, it boggles the mind.
It’s not like it’s not been rolling out features and opting people in without telling them…
Google is spending a lot of cash to make Firefox look bad so people are unmotivated to change away from Chrome when manifest v3 is fully rolled out.
Wait what?
deleted by creator
Not taking any chances. https://winworldpc.com/product/ncsa-mosaic/1
Yes, that’s right. I’m going to buy a 486, run windows 3.1 with trumpet winsock and be rid of tracking forever!
Until then:
Only problem is that you wouldn’t be able to visit most sites, because Mosaic only supports HTTP 1.0. You could go for Lynx, though. Just remember to disable the cookie support.
Which engine does it use?
Probably chromium, haha, so no-go.
It is built on the QtWebEngine, which is a wrapper for the Chromium browser core.
-Wikipedia
deleted by creator
It is built on the QtWebEngine, which is a wrapper for the Chromium browser core.
yeah, thats chromium bro
deleted by creator
yes, they are not nearly on Googles level, not even comparably.
Secondly it’s not even primarily about that, even if it made no difference, two competing shitty companies is better than a full on monopoly.
I’m not coming from google hate, I just want there to be more than one actor, therefore I will never ever pick the largest one.
Hmm. I’m using Waterfox rn.
deleted by creator
Every single time someone mentions they abandoned firefox for something “better”, it’s chromium based. Privacy is good, but the most important for me is to avoid monopoly/monoculture.
deleted by creator
If they control the browser core they control the web, no two ways about it.
Falkon is better for privacy than stock Chrome or Firefox, but I still find Brave or LibreWolf better than that.
More information about the privacy preserving ad measurement feature and how to disable it if you wanted. Mixed feelings.