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- business@lemmy.world
cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/17859978
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Break up Google!
Changes to the online advertising market would make online ads less valuable for publishers and merchants, and less useful for consumers.
If by useful they meant anything that is heavily promoted by Google ads get added on the ‘will not touch with a 10 foot pole’ list. Sure, I guess?
Also hinting at changing their business models, raise the cost of devices, should chrome or android be forced to break up.
Google blog response is exactly why this breakup should happen. They are getting out of control.
Ads are not useful for consumers ever
But how do you break up Google? Their ad business is the lynchpin to their monopolies and breaking off chunks without being able to self fund is just asking for harm to the market.
Breaking off Chrome while banning paid default search status puts the browser company with the same problem as Firefox.
No one can run a search company without ads.
Cutting along business lines is just going to create smaller monopolies or dead product lines.
maybe they shouldn’t have put themselves in that predicament
Cut Google Fiber off and it can be a separate ISP.
Cut the Chromebook and Pixel phone divisions off. thay can support itself with device sales.
go ahead and kill the projects they’re gonna abandon in the next few years anyway, don’t let them replace them.
There’s plenty of good, free and non-invasive search engines. Give Qwant a try!
I seriously can’t deal with google search anymore, I swear I can’t find anything.
It’s like it replaces my search terms with something more common (sometimes even completely unrelated) and runs the search with that. It’s fucking ridiculous. Keyword search doesn’t work at all anymore, and writing fucking sentences like it suggests you to leads to completely shit results. I just don’t get it.
I noticed a change like this some 10 or so years ago. It used to be pretty simple, just an index search. And it was pretty reliable, you just had to get the hang of it. But I noticed they changed something because that didn’t work so well anymore, so I switched up my search style to be more like you would expect people new to computers to have. Kinda annoying, and not as effective, especially for edge cases (some obscure searches) but for those it seemed to somewhat fall back to the old method.
But now, nothing works anymore. Honestly it fucking infuriates me sometimes, I can’t find anything. If you want something specific, fucking forget it. More than three specifications and it shows you just 5 results??? What the fuck is with that? And not good results mind you. any less specific and it shows you generic, not applicable answers. I tried everything, it’s useless beyond the most general questions.So yeah, I kinda went off on a rant there, but the point of the comment is, is qwant (or any other alternative) similar to old google and can actually search by keywords?
The problem is SEO.
You can’t just use keywords anymore because every site out there is actively exploiting that system. Being the search engine everyone uses inherently means everyone will try to cheat to be overrepresented. It’s an adversarial system now, which inherently forces an arms race between the search engine and web sites, meaning a search engine has to constantly evolve to stay ahead.
They’ve failed to do that and I definitely don’t like the end product now, but there’s nothing they can do to be what they were 10 years ago either. The web has changed.
You can’t just use keywords anymore because every site out there is actively exploiting that system.
Ahh Goodhart’s Law strikes again.
All of them do this to some degree unless you quotation mark the shit out of search terms but in my experience Qwant is better than others at this. If they didn’t do it at all many common search terms would be very hit or miss. This is my obviously just my opinion and your mileage might vary.
The biggest downsides you need to prepare yourself for in every other search engine are lack of Google Maps integrations (they’re so far ahead of everyone :/) and no Reddit results. The first one is offset by just how shit Google is now. The other is more tricky but I believe Reddit is so astroturfed that it’s no longer useful except for some niche communities. I do Reddit searches via Redlib so that spez gets none of my data.
About reddit - I was just looking up different search engines and stumbled upon this. So apparently reddit blocks other search engines. But honestly, that’s not even that bad. Reddit’s been astroturfed to hell and even the non-product placement content is AI generated garbage.
Quotation marks worked as a patch for a short while in google, but even that has been nerfed the last couple of years. Honestly I’m just looking for a search engine that doesn’t return results for what it thinks I want, but returns results that actually contain the keywords I searched for.
But from what I’ve seen, it’s slim pickings. I’ll give Qwant a try tho, thanks!
It’s not going to happen. Especially if the rumours of Harris replacing Lina Khan are true.
Don’t get your hopes up. The US political class is far more pro business than people here would like.
I don’t think she understands how much people adore what Lina Khan is doing.
I doubt she cares. If she’s ever challenged, all she has to do is say “but Trump would be worse” and millions would fall in line.
And I sincerely doubt Lina Khan is a line in the sand for pretty much any Democratic Party voter. They’ll hold their nose and vote for Harris as long as her positions are marginally better than Trumps.
