Here’s the problem: Trump is out to maximize environmental damage
[https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/01/climate/trump-environment-election.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Wk4._J7T.ULvq-YGfijD4&smid=url-share]
and the US Green Party runs as spoilers. Let’s look at three scenarios: Scenario
1: Harris: 1001 votes Trump: 1000 votes Stein: 0 votes Harris wins — Scenario 2:
Harris: 1000 votes Trump: 1000 votes Stein: 1 vote Tied vote, which goes to the
courts and Congress, putting Trump in power — Scenario 3: Harris: 999 votes
Trump: 1000 votes Stein: 2 votes Trump wins outright — This spoiler effect makes
it really imperative to actively vote for Harris if you want to see any kind of
climate action going forward. Republicans know this, which is why they’re the
ones funding the Green Party
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/10/24/jill-stein-super-pac-republican-ties/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzI5NzQyNDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzMxMTI4Mzk5LCJpYXQiOjE3Mjk3NDI0MDAsImp0aSI6ImE3ZDNiMGY1LTYyMTItNDQ1Zi04ZTk2LWFmMDNlZWI3MGRiNiIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9lbGVjdGlvbnMvMjAyNC8xMC8yNC9qaWxsLXN0ZWluLXN1cGVyLXBhYy1yZXB1YmxpY2FuLXRpZXMvIn0.bl_oZgUzjpyUnJeQXJnWeMpM6IwGGPtXH1zl0KjdGK0].
And that’s why the European Greens want Jill Stein to step down now — they get
that what she’s doing is making it easier to elect a fascist bent on
environmental destruction.
Seem like not endorsing the government or the blue party will get you banned for trolling at climate@slrpnk.net
If both are unsuitable for the climate cause, it doesn’t mean you get a 3rd option. It means the climate is irrelevant for this election.
In that case you lost the chance to have a climate relevant option many years ago.
Voting a 3rd party or not voting will not pressure the candidates to do anything for the climate now. Even the threat of letting the authoritarian fascist win comes too late, because third parties are already out.
Also, if the US doesn’t elect the democrat candidate now, trump will be elected and there will be no way of doing anything for the climate with the US any more, likely forever.
The ship has sailed. You can only choose how bad you lose now.
voting a 3rd party or not voting will not pressure the candidates to do anything for the climate now.
Wrong, by losing votes the red and blue party are forced to change their policies to get votes back otherwise they lose elections. On the contrary if they don’t lose any support they are not really forced or motivated to do any change.
Also, if the US doesn’t elect the democrat candidate now, trump will be elected and there will be no way of doing anything for the climate with the US any more, likely forever.
No, you’re intentionally ignorant.
If both are unsuitable for the climate cause, it doesn’t mean you get a 3rd option. It means the climate is irrelevant for this election. In that case you lost the chance to have a climate relevant option many years ago. Voting a 3rd party or not voting will not pressure the candidates to do anything for the climate now. Even the threat of letting the authoritarian fascist win comes too late, because third parties are already out.
Also, if the US doesn’t elect the democrat candidate now, trump will be elected and there will be no way of doing anything for the climate with the US any more, likely forever.
The ship has sailed. You can only choose how bad you lose now.
Wrong, by losing votes the red and blue party are forced to change their policies to get votes back otherwise they lose elections. On the contrary if they don’t lose any support they are not really forced or motivated to do any change.
Read what Greta Thunberg said