• Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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      1 month ago

      I just wish they would give us more than two ports, one of them is the power port anyway so technically they’re only giving you one port, which I think is about three ports too few.

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        1 month ago

        It’s not like the power port is power only, or even only power or accessory. It can do both at the same time.

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          1 month ago

          It cannot do both at the same time. That is demonstrably untrue. It’s either a power port or it’s a data port and if it’s been a power port then it is by definition not a data port.

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            I’m not sure why you think that’s untrue, but it is true. I literally have a dock that provides power to my laptop, as well as connecting it to my monitors, keyboard, mouse, etc. all over one USB type C cable.

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              Because you’re using an external device to extend the capabilities of the port. It can’t do that without the dock, so now you have two things to carry around.

              If you look at the comments on this, there are two distinct camps of people who will never agree: those who expect their laptop to be a self-contained unit that doesn’t require anything that wasn’t packaged with it to meet common use cases (which requires more ports), and those who are okay with docks and dongles and adaptors.

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      1 month ago

      They can’t do anything if you don’t have a usb c device to connect to it. Ethernet? Hdmi? A simple fucking memory stick?

  • thmnwlf@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 month ago

    well… the new one has gained some ports back, also usb c is absolutely OP (if you have the money for the Accessories lel)

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    1 month ago

    I’m not very tech savy but for years I wondered if I could somehow cram a desktop computer in an aluminium suit case. The challenge is getting to the point I will just take it.

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    As long as the bare necessities is available e.g 14" with HDMI, 2 Type C with PD and DP Alt, MicroSD/SD card reader, smart card reader(?), 2 USB A 3.1, 1x 3.5mm jack, 1x ethernet port, kensington and easy maintenance, for me it’s enough. VGA connectors (dang those older projectors) can be handled with VGA to HDMI adapter.

    My daily device is T14 G1 AMD with dualbooting separate SSD (M.2 WWAN slot used as SSD).

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    I am happy that things have converged over time to a single, truly versatile multi-bus capable port (USB-C/Thunderbolt 3) … however, the vendors IMHO should be legally bound to supply down-converters for all the peripherals that used the older buses for the next 10 years, transitively for 2 generations of buses.

    If USB-C supports bus ‘X’, then there should be inexpensive and easy to purchase down-converters from USB-C to ‘X’. If Bus ‘X’ replaced bus ‘Y’ in the last 10 years then there should be a down-converter available from bus ‘X’ to ‘Y’.

    One problematic example is Firewire… Apple used to make Thunderbolt-2-to-Firewire800 dongles, but they stopped and now they’re rare as hens’ teeth and ungodly-expensive.

    They still sell Thunderbolt-3-to-2 dongles, but how long will they keep selling those?

    Oh, and while I’m wishing for ponies, the drivers/specifications for all such adapters should be open-source and royalty-free.

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      Didn’t the last Apple model with FW ship about that long ago? Last of their computers with said port I can think about is the 2012 Macbook.

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    I’m glad I can plug in one port and have a dual display setup, all peripherals, speakers, ethernet, charging, etc connected at my desk in one go.

    If I want to leave, unplug one thing and I’m good to go.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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      Yup, and that’s fantastic if you’re working at a consistent desk or something. I have a USB-C hub at home and a USB-C monitor at work, which is pretty nice.

      However, what’s not nice is connecting ad-hoc. Let’s say I go to an unfamiliar meeting room, HDMI is the way to go. Or if I’m going to plug in to my TV at a rental property or something. Or I’m at a friend’s house and I want to transfer a bunch of data and they have a USB-A drive. I’m not going to bring a hub around with me everywhere I go, I’d prefer to just plug in whatever I need into the laptop directly.

      USB-C is great, not having other options as well isn’t great. Give me 2-3 USB-C ports that can all do charging, display out, and data, and also give me a handful of other ports (HDMI, USB-A, RJ-45, headphone jack, etc). It’s very rare to find a laptop too thin to support it, most “thin” laptops are merely curved at the edge to make it look thin, when really it’s plenty thick to support even full-fat RJ-45 (which it doesn’t even need to, I’ve seen thin laptops with a flip-down port).

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      Outside the Apple world, a dock connector has been the norm way before USB C was invented.

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        I miss actual dock connectors. Cramming everything into a single USB-C connection has always been problematic for me. I have a lot of stuff.

        My work laptop has a USB-C dock where I have Ethernet (1000mbps), three display port displays, mouse, keyboard, wireless headset dongle, and a dual head USB to displayport adapter.

        That’s a lot of bandwidth.

        I frequently have little problems keeping everything working correctly.

        Luckily, I don’t push high bandwidth video though any display for work, so generally I don’t see many bandwidth problems.

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    Oh no! They took out ports the vast majority of users would never use in their entire life, making production cheaper and also making room for new technology to develop and evolve, while enabling whoever needs a specific port to simply buy a fucking dongle and get the job done. Oh and this also made it possible for the entire machine to be lighter and thinner, more thermally efficient and have infinitely better battery life.

    The horror 🙄

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      Yeah which ports are folks actually missing here? Looking at various ports.

      Magsafe: This has returned on the new machines. I like it for the green / orange charge indicator. RJ-45: Ok I kinda of get it, but it’s such a tall port. Personally I’d prefer a thinner laptop in this instance. Mini DVI: long dead. Replaced with HDMI. The MacBook pro’s have HDMI FireWire: long dead USB A: Replaced with USB-C. Ok one A port here would still be useful. Headphone / Mic: Still there, just as a combo port on the other side. SD card reader: The MacBook Pros have this. Mini Display port: Long dead.

      In short if you want HDMI and SD card reader and are anti dongle you get a MBP which has both.

      Either way now have ports that can push insane bandwidth and route USB, PCI, HDMI and DP over the same cable which is incredibly versatile.

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    I don’t see the problem. Type-C ports can replace all those ports. If you want more ports, buy a dock.

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      Right ?

      My m1 MacBook is my first after a lifetime of thinkpads and dells etc.

      For about a week, I thought I was short a few ports. Then I got a £20 dongle that takes 1 Port, gives me : 4 usb A, 1 USB C, all the card slots, HDMI and Ethernet.

      You can plug anything into it. Life has never been easier.

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    1 month ago

    That’s what I mean when I say that Apple is the worst even ever happened to technology.

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    1 month ago

    Why not complain about them not having a floppy drive anymore while you’re at it? That’s as obsolete as the non USB-C ports.