This has been a long standing conspiracy theory amongst right wing talk show hosts and other people. Basically the claim is that FEMA will imprison lots of people especially those with far right views using a emergency as a pretext. This conspiracy theory has been widely debunked already.

The interesting thing is now something like the conspiracy theory may happen in real life except ran by ICE instead of FEMA. I’m curious how people who previously propagated this conspiracy theory feel about Trump’s plan for a mass deportation. If you know anyone who’s into this conspiracy theory would you be able to ask them their thoughts on the FEMA camps and then bring up Trump’s mass deportation plan. I’m curious how’d they’d react. Let’s not assume because everyone is different. While trying to research this question I found one article from the right that showed deep concern about Trump’s plan: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/nov/20/deep-state-wants-terminate-constitution/ but I can’t really find much information otherwise.

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    The people who hated FEMA were afraid it would harm people that look like them and think ICE will harm people that don’t look like them. That makes FEMA bad and ICE good in their hate filled minds.

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      I totally get what you mean! They think the cruelty is the point and it will never happen to me or my family/friends so I don’t care.

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    Always accuse your enemy of that which you are guilty

    So the chances are pretty high that they absolutely love it

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        it allows them to have it both ways. if they lose they can claim fraud and cause problems, possibly whip people into sedition. Should they do the fraud then their own previous lies make your accusations lesser since they have “saturated” the concept and everyone is sick of hearing of it.

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        America has never had free and fair elections. And even if we wanted to change that, voter manipulation via mass and social medias and a wildly divergent educational system have destroyed the foundation of reality-based truth which is required for masses of individuals to make informed decisions and vote accordingly.

        The fact of the matter is that it makes no difference if the election was “stolen” or not. What matters is how people feel, and this country literally wrote the book on propaganda and public relations. What people feel about things can be changed as easily as the script for a news report. It took less than 20 years to rehabituate the reputations of war criminals like Bush and Cheyney, and the Democrats are still seen as a left-wing party despite having moved so far to the right that they make Reagan look like a hippy.

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    They think the government targets them, so when the GOP get in they think it’s ok to target other people. It’s all part of the propaganda.

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    You have to keep in mind that hypocrisy is not considered a bad thing to conservatives. It doesn’t matter that they’re hurting people, as long as they’re “hurting the right people.”

    Conservative mindset is inherently unequal. The ingroup gets all rewards and benefits, the outgroup gets all blame and punishment.

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      I keep telling all my liberal friends this. It’s a waste of time and energy to call out the Right’s hypocrisy and hang on to it like it’s some sort of trump card (no pun intended). The right does not care that they are hypocritical, in fact they actually revel in it, they find it hilarious that the left gets so worked up over it.

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    Since they’re not interested in anything resembling objective reality. Empirical evidence is a evil conspiracy by the deep state to silence them.

    The FEMA camps are real, and you’re misunderstanding the statements about ICE camps. You just don’t get the joke.

    The conditioning of these selfish twats is impenetrable. If you bring anything but compassion to the table, then you’re trying to fight with their weapons and lose. If you come at them with compassion, they accuse you of being dishonest…they are the victim in their mind, period.

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    My friend sent me a link to this conspiracy a couple weeks ago saying he heard about it on a right wing podcast and tried to tell me who the “Real” fascists are.

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    I think we should have a border that is as uncrossable as possible everywhere except the door, and at the door they just check your paperwork or help you get it if you don’t have it.

    “alright can I get your papers? oh you don’t have them? alright go talk to ted he’ll get you sorted, as long as your not a criminal you’ll be an American within the day.”

    as a little aside, my preference would also be to offer basically a “starter kit” for refugees and the like where you get a free apartment for like a year, assistance with stuff like food and medical costs, and your choice of a government job (DMV and such) or assistance in aquiring some other job. maybe even offer a few different locations you could choose to be moved to to start out.

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    Fema confiscated weapons during Katrina. This is public knowledge. They aren’t trust worthy.

    And for ice, it’s a tough situation because Bidens admin shouldn’t have let them in in the first place. The government caused the issue, they can fix it